does this mean its over???? Nobody bit anyones ear...
Such a great opportunity too... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert S. Sfeir Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 2:38 PM To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: XML is change You have too. Glad to see this didn't degenerate into a flame war ;-) Glad to see there is still a sense of normalcy after being absent for a while. R On 6/18/02 2:00 PM, "Scott Cadillac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you Robert, > > You've made some excellent points here. > > Your insight is valuable. Cheers.... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert S. Sfeir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 10:38 AM > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: XML is change > > >> On 6/18/02 1:06 PM, "Scott Cadillac" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Robert, >>> >>>>> Reliable and consistant server-side XSLT for all platforms has not >>> arrived >>>>> yet in my opinion. Plus I'm waiting for pre-emptive threading for use >>> with >>>>> Witango and to see what XSL support may be available to us in the > future. >>>> >>>> If you use Java, I can't agree with that comment. JAXP was just > released >>>> recently into final production, so has the Web Services standards for >>> Java. >>>> The threading model is also a non issue with Java. >>> >>> But I'm not using Java. I use Witango. So, you've added to my point - > thank >>> you:-) >> >> Actually I was making the point that though you might be using WiTango, > you >> can STILL use java. Last I checked JavaBeans was supported and alive in >> WiTango and it all worked really well. So there is no reason why the 2 >> could not be combined since a JavaBean can handle the processing of the > XML >> to XSLT also. Further you seem to forget about the JAS server which also >> allows you to do lots of stuff like that. >> >>> >>> >>>>> As far as client-side XSLT goes - I view the arrival of Mozilla 1.0 to >>> be an >>>>> important one. Mozilla's gold status may not noticably influence the >>> mighty >>>>> gods of MSIE, but I think it will sway all the other browser makers to >>> get >>>>> their ducks in a row by measuring their product capabilities against >>>>> Mozilla's performance. Mozilla is a serious competitor - not to MSIE, >>> but >>>>> all the other browsers. >>>> >>>> Yep, yet another reason why I don't believe in MS stuff, I have to see >>> them >>>> implement a standard from A-Z without adding more funky stuff on their >>> own. >>> >>> I support Standards too, but lets face it - they take too long to > finalize! >>> So that funky stuff is called innovation while waiting for everyone else > to >>> play catch-up. >>> >>> Sorry - just teasing :-) But the wait for standards can take so long > that >>> they border on more harm than good. >> >> True, no argument there, they DO take sometimes TOO long to get going, my >> position on that is start using them and change them if and when you need > to >> and the standard is out. Usually things are not that far off. >> >>> >>> >>>>> >>>>> Like developers used to say about Java - I only want to write my XML >>> once >>>>> and deploy it across many platforms :-) >>>> >>>> What do you mean? We STILL say that. Hence my opinion in the first >>>> paragraph. >>> >>> Here's an excerpt from today's www.byte.com Java Resources section. >>> >>> (Portable at the byte code level, but only to the extent that different >>> implementations of the Java VM are compatible with each other. The > promise >>> is "Write once, run anywhere." The reality is "Write once, test >>> everywhere." ) >> >> Yeah their has been a lot of that... But please don't confuse this issue >> with GUI issues, and by GUI I mean Swing/AWT issues which carry from >> platform to platform. I have yet to have a problem with server side >> implementations of Java where I couldn't take a servlet and just move it > to >> another server, just like I can with WiTango-based applications. I move > my >> javabeans from any platform TO any platform that WiTango supports and I >> never ever have to write anything twice. >> >> >> R >> >> -- >> Robert S. Sfeir >> Senior Java Engineer >> NIH/CIT/DECA >> e:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> v:1.301.594.2900 >> f:1.301.480.3232 >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body >> >> > > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > R -- Robert S. 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