Am I to assume that I'll get this every 5 minutes until this idiot returns to work? Goes to show that a PhD ain't what it used to be.
> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Sims > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:48 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > Subject: Witango-Talk - witango-talk Digest - V01 #882 ( -Reply) > > > This is an automatic reply. > > I am out of the office from noon on 26 Nov 2002 until Monday, 2 > Dec 2002. > > If you need immediate assistance, please call the Safety Office > at ext. 2697 and talk to Rodney Barton, Assistant Safety Officer. > If Rodney is not in, leaving a message on our voice mail will > page Rodney. > > In an emergency, both Rodney Barton and Campus Police have my > cell phone number on file. > > Thanks and have a good holiday, > > James Sims, Ph.D., Safety Office > > >>> witango-talk 11/27/02 09:33 >>> > > witango-talk Digest Thu, 28 Nov 2002 02:33:40 +1100 V01 #882 > > Today's topics: > 'Witango-Talk - witango-talk Digest - V01 #881 ( -Reply)' > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 09:28:25 -0600 > From: "James Sims" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Witango-Talk - witango-talk Digest - V01 #881 ( -Reply) > > > This is an automatic reply. > > I am out of the office from noon on 26 Nov 2002 until Monday, 2 > Dec 2002. = > =20 > > If you need immediate assistance, please call the Safety Office at ext. = > 2697 and talk to Rodney Barton, Assistant Safety Officer. If Rodney is = > not in, leaving a message on our voice mail will page Rodney.=20 > > In an emergency, both Rodney Barton and Campus Police have my cell phone = > number on file. > > Thanks and have a good holiday,=20 > > James Sims, Ph.D., Safety Office > > >>> witango-talk 11/27/02 09:19 >>> > > witango-talk Digest Thu, 28 Nov 2002 02:19:00 +1100 V01 #881 > > Today's topics: > 'Re: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem' > 'Witango-Talk - witango-talk Digest - V01 #880 ( -Reply)' > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 08:19:46 -0600 > From: "John McGowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem > > > don't put the @include tag in the iframe source... put the url of the taf > that you want to populate that iframe... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wilcox, Jamileh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 6:00 PM > Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem > > > That would explain it. OK, back to the drawing board. > > Thanks! j > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:51 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem > > > > > > This is because the sub TAF (TAF Call in an @INCLUDE) > > reference is not processed as a TAF by the server. It is just > > passed through as XML inside. The original @INCLUDE > > > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm > > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On > Behalf Of Wilcox, > > Jamileh > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 3:04 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > Subject: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem > > > > Is there a problem with using <@INCLUDE> with a TAF file? > > > > Or a problem with nesting <@INCLUDE> in an inline frame? > > > > If so, is there another method to use? > > > > I've got an entry page that uses an IFrame with a taf src > > file. That src file has an <@INCLUDE> for another taf file. > > > > The browser shows the structure of the final taf file (i.e., > > the If/Else statements, the Search statements, etc) rather > > than the correct output. There's also a couple of extra > > brackets thrown in for good measure (like > > so): ]]> > > > > I've searched all 3 tafs for open brackets, open tags, etc., > > without any luck, both looking through the tafs & using the > > View Source. I've stripped all 3 tafs down to essentials > > (just HTML, HEAD, BODY, etc.) and still have the same problem > > (which seems to eliminate the open tags possibility). I've > > created new copies of all 3 tafs. Nothing seems to fix this, > > so I'm starting to wonder if I'm doing something that Witango > > just won't do. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks! > > jamileh > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > __________ > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > __________ > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 09:02:31 -0600 > From: "James Sims" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Witango-Talk - witango-talk Digest - V01 #880 ( -Reply) > > > This is an automatic reply. > > I am out of the office from noon on 26 Nov 2002 until Monday, 2 > Dec 2002. = > =3D > =3D20 > > If you need immediate assistance, please call the Safety Office at ext. = > =3D > 2697 and talk to Rodney Barton, Assistant Safety Officer. If Rodney is = > =3D > not in, leaving a message on our voice mail will page Rodney.=3D20 > > In an emergency, both Rodney Barton and Campus Police have my cell phone = > =3D > number on file. > > Thanks and have a good holiday,=3D20 > > James Sims, Ph.D., Safety Office > > >>> witango-talk 11/27/02 07:02 >>> > > witango-talk Digest Thu, 28 Nov 2002 00:02:00 +1100 V01 #880 > > Today's topics: > 'RE: Witango-Talk: Ping' > 'RE: Witango-Talk: Ping' > 'RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up' > 'RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic' > 'Re: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up' > 'RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic' > 'Re: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic' > 'RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up' > 'Please Clarify' > 'Re: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic' > 'OT - Happy Anniversary to Me' > 'RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic' > 'RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic' > 'RE: Witango-Talk: Please Clarify' > 'RE: Re: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic' > 'Re: Witango-Talk: OT - Happy Anniversary to Me' > 'RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic' > 'RE: Witango-Talk: Please Clarify' > '<@INCLUDE> problem' > 'RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem' > 'RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem' > 'RE: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem' > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 07:25:54 -0500 > From: Web Dude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > Poing! > > >Pong! > > > >I was wondering if there was a problem too... > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46 > >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to make sure I didn't > >get bounced from the list. > > > >Thanks > > > >Steve Fogelson > >Internet Commerce Solutions > >________________________________________________________________________ > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > >________________________________________________________________________ > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > --=3D20 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:37:12 -0800 > From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > Who server is it now :-) > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm=3D20 > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > Poing! > > >Pong! > > > >I was wondering if there was a problem too... > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46 > >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to make sure I > didn't > >get bounced from the list. > > > >Thanks > > > >Steve Fogelson > >Internet Commerce Solutions > >_______________________________________________________________________ > _ > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > >_______________________________________________________________________ > _ > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > --=3D20 > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 12:02:29 -0600 > From: "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up > > > One more that I forgot to add to that last mail > I am using an external to find out the machine name of the user. > > @@local$nslookup > > But for some reason it's not returning. If I don't denoted the scope > would the command work like : > > @@nslookup > > ?? > > thanks in advance > > Steve > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 11:50:22 -0600 > From: "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > > Since this seems to be the topic at hand: > > > I created an application that goes out and runs a set of externals that > returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers. =3D3D20 > > The hard part of this application I received help with from this list, > but, the last part of this application I have ran into a wall. > > I need to know where I can be "steered" out on the web to find out ping > rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I am trying to assign > different images to different ping rates, but, to be honest, I have no > idea what is considered good or bad AND, I don't even know where to > start on the web trying to find that information. > > Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly appreciated! Thank > you! > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=3D3D20 > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > Who server is it now :-) > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > Authorized Witango Reseller > http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm=3D3D2= > 0 > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > Poing! > > >Pong! > > > >I was wondering if there was a problem too... > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46 > >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to make sure I > didn't > >get bounced from the list. > > > >Thanks > > > >Steve Fogelson > >Internet Commerce Solutions > >_______________________________________________________________________ > _ > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > >_______________________________________________________________________ > _ > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > --=3D3D20 > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:23:38 -0800 > From: "Atrix Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up > > > thats because without using a scope i believe it defaults to user scope. > local scope is just like it implies...local and temporary. user scope > sticks with the user until you change or purge it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:02 AM > Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up > > > One more that I forgot to add to that last mail > I am using an external to find out the machine name of the user. > > @@local$nslookup > > But for some reason it's not returning. If I don't denoted the scope > would the command work like : > > @@nslookup > > ?? > > thanks in advance > > Steve > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:25:29 -0500 > From: "Tom Ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > > you might find something useful and dslreports.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Campbell, Steve V. > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:50 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > >=3D20 > >=3D20 > > Since this seems to be the topic at hand: > >=3D20 > >=3D20 > > I created an application that goes out and runs a set of externals that > > returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers. =3D20 > >=3D20 > > The hard part of this application I received help with from this list, > > but, the last part of this application I have ran into a wall. > >=3D20 > > I need to know where I can be "steered" out on the web to find out ping > > rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I am trying to assign > > different images to different ping rates, but, to be honest, I have no > > idea what is considered good or bad AND, I don't even know where to > > start on the web trying to find that information. > >=3D20 > > Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly appreciated! Thank > > you! > >=3D20 > > Steve > >=3D20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=3D20 > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > >=3D20 > > Who server is it now :-) > >=3D20 > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > Authorized Witango Reseller > http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm=3D2= > 0 > > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > >=3D20 > >=3D20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > >=3D20 > > Poing! > >=3D20 > > >Pong! > > > > > >I was wondering if there was a problem too... > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46 > > >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > > > >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to make sure I > > didn't > > >get bounced from the list. > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > >Steve Fogelson > > >Internet Commerce Solutions > > >_______________________________________________________________________ > > _ > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > >_______________________________________________________________________ > > _ > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > >=3D20 > >=3D20 > > --=3D20 > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > >=3D20 > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:30:51 -0800 > From: "Atrix Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > > well if you think about it logicly...what do you consider good response = > =3D > time > for a server? If your at a web page and it opens up in half a second (500 > ms) thats pretty good isnt it? 2 seconds is kinda iffy and 5 seconds and > above id say is kinda slow. ::shrug:: :P > > another thing to consider with network speed besides ping is avaliable > bandwidth. Im not sure how youd use this in your calculations or if you > even can very easily but if im a server with 1 megabyte per second with 3 > users at 330k apeice (leaving aprox 10k bandwidth left) but have quad xeon > processors...the ping reply is going to be fast since a ping is small and > the processor isnt bogged down, but if someone tried to download a larger > file from me, it would take a long time since there is only 10k/second > bandwidth left. > > Make sense? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:50 AM > Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > > Since this seems to be the topic at hand: > > > I created an application that goes out and runs a set of externals that > returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers. > > The hard part of this application I received help with from this list, > but, the last part of this application I have ran into a wall. > > I need to know where I can be "steered" out on the web to find out ping > rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I am trying to assign > different images to different ping rates, but, to be honest, I have no > idea what is considered good or bad AND, I don't even know where to > start on the web trying to find that information. > > Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly appreciated! Thank > you! > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > Who server is it now :-) > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > Poing! > > >Pong! > > > >I was wondering if there was a problem too... > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46 > >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to make sure I > didn't > >get bounced from the list. > > > >Thanks > > > >Steve Fogelson > >Internet Commerce Solutions > >_______________________________________________________________________ > _ > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > >_______________________________________________________________________ > _ > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > -- > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:32:27 -0800 > From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up > > > Just a clarification, if you do not specify scope it defaults to the > "DEFAULTSCOPE=3D3D" that is defined in the T4SERVER.INI and new > WITANGO.INI= > . > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm=3D20 > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Atrix Wolfe > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:24 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > Subject: Re: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up > > thats because without using a scope i believe it defaults to user scope. > local scope is just like it implies...local and temporary. user scope > sticks with the user until you change or purge it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:02 AM > Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up > > > One more that I forgot to add to that last mail > I am using an external to find out the machine name of the user. > > @@local$nslookup > > But for some reason it's not returning. If I don't denoted the scope > would the command work like : > > @@nslookup > > ?? > > thanks in advance > > Steve > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:40:27 -0500 > From: "Steve Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Please Clarify > > > Now that one platform has left the version 5 Beta world, we've now got > readers who are using at least 3 different versions of Witango/Tango (3.x, > 2000/4.x, and 5.x). Therefore it would help everyone if when you post to = > =3D > the > list, you could provide some general information when asking a question. I > was reading the reply that Atrix sent, which is correct if the product is > Witango 4.x/2000 and earlier but is incorrect if you are using Witango 5.0 > or greater. > > Please include version, platform, database, method of connection (ODBC, > iODBC, OCI, etc.) and any other details that would be relevant to your > question. > > Thanks, > > Steve Smith > > Oakbridge Information Solutions > Office: (519) 624-4388 > GTA: (416) 606-3885 > Fax: (519) 624-3353 > Cell: (416) 606-3885 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web: http://www.oakbridge.ca > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:50:52 -0500 > From: Robert Shubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > > It's something like this, in the internet: > > 1-10 ms (milliseconds): Excellent (typically local 10/100 network) > 11-50 ms: Typical for T1s, T3s, etc. > 51-100 ms: Typical for Frame Relay, DSL, ISDN etc. > 101-300 ms: Typical for 56K dial-up Modems > 301+ ms: getting bad, probably some congestion > 1000+ ms (1 second): horrible, mis-route or some other failure > > You should always do about 10 pings and get the average, since a packet > drop, a route build, or a collision can cause the occasional packet to > be hundreds of ms more than it should be. > > Robert Shubert > Tronics > > "Campbell, Steve V." wrote: > >=3D20 > > Since this seems to be the topic at hand: > >=3D20 > > I created an application that goes out and runs a set of externals that > > returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers. > >=3D20 > > The hard part of this application I received help with from this list, > > but, the last part of this application I have ran into a wall. > >=3D20 > > I need to know where I can be "steered" out on the web to find out ping > > rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I am trying to assign > > different images to different ping rates, but, to be honest, I have no > > idea what is considered good or bad AND, I don't even know where to > > start on the web trying to find that information. > >=3D20 > > Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly appreciated! Thank > > you! > >=3D20 > > Steve > >=3D20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > >=3D20 > > Who server is it now :-) > >=3D20 > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm > > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > >=3D20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > >=3D20 > > Poing! > >=3D20 > > >Pong! > > > > > >I was wondering if there was a problem too... > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46 > > >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > > > >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to make sure I > > didn't > > >get bounced from the list. > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > >Steve Fogelson > > >Internet Commerce Solutions > > >_______________________________________________________________________ > > _ > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > >_______________________________________________________________________ > > _ > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > >=3D20 > > -- > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > >=3D20 > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:51:22 -0500 > From: "Steve Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: OT - Happy Anniversary to Me > > > I'm not sure why I remember this kind of useless trivia, but if my memory > serves me correctly, I joined EveryWare on November 25th 1995. Yesterday > marked 7 years since I first used Tango and became a member of the =3D > original > Tango-Talk list and I've enjoyed every minute. > > Thank you to all of you who have made the last 7 years so enjoyable and I > look forward to spending many more years here. > > Steve Smith > > Oakbridge Information Solutions > Office: (519) 624-4388 > GTA: (416) 606-3885 > Fax: (519) 624-3353 > Cell: (416) 606-3885 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web: http://www.oakbridge.ca > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:59:13 -0500 > From: "Steve Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > > I'm not sure what your ultimate goal is but wouldn't it be useful to store > this information over time and compare current results to an average? > > Just a thought, > > Steve Smith > > Oakbridge Information Solutions > Office: (519) 624-4388 > GTA: (416) 606-3885 > Fax: (519) 624-3353 > Cell: (416) 606-3885 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web: http://www.oakbridge.ca > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Shubert > > Sent: November 26, 2002 1:51 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > > > > > It's something like this, in the internet: > > > > 1-10 ms (milliseconds): Excellent (typically local 10/100 network) > > 11-50 ms: Typical for T1s, T3s, etc. > > 51-100 ms: Typical for Frame Relay, DSL, ISDN etc. > > 101-300 ms: Typical for 56K dial-up Modems > > 301+ ms: getting bad, probably some congestion > > 1000+ ms (1 second): horrible, mis-route or some other failure > > > > You should always do about 10 pings and get the average, since a packet > > drop, a route build, or a collision can cause the occasional packet to > > be hundreds of ms more than it should be. > > > > Robert Shubert > > Tronics > > > > "Campbell, Steve V." wrote: > > > > > > Since this seems to be the topic at hand: > > > > > > I created an application that goes out and runs a set of externals =3D > that > > > returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers. > > > > > > The hard part of this application I received help with from this list, > > > but, the last part of this application I have ran into a wall. > > > > > > I need to know where I can be "steered" out on the web to find out =3D > ping > > > rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I am trying to =3D > assign > > > different images to different ping rates, but, to be honest, I have no > > > idea what is considered good or bad AND, I don't even know where to > > > start on the web trying to find that information. > > > > > > Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly appreciated! =3D > Thank > > > you! > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > Who server is it now :-) > > > > > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > > Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm > > > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > Poing! > > > > > > >Pong! > > > > > > > >I was wondering if there was a problem too... > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46 > > > >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > > > > > > >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to make sure I > > > didn't > > > >get bounced from the list. > > > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > > > >Steve Fogelson > > > >Internet Commerce Solutions > > > > >______________________________________________________________________= > =3D > _ > > > _ > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > >______________________________________________________________________= > =3D > _ > > > _ > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________________________________= > =3D > _ > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED]= > =3D > m > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________= > =3D > _ > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED]= > =3D > m > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > _______________________________________________________________________= > =3D > _ > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED]= > =3D > m > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:04:28 -0500 > From: Web Dude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > > Since I have several T1's, with 30+ sites, ping rates have always=3D20 > been paramount in testing the connection. Unfortunately, ping rates=3D20 > will fluctuate widely according to connections, time of day, other=3D20 > traffic, etc. Normally, I can get pings of 10 ms or less to sites=3D20 > like google.com, alexa.com, netsol.com sending 56 byte packages..=3D20 > Sometimes the rates will go down to 4 to 5 ms. Of cource this is T1=3D20 > rates and my bandwidth for each pipe is rated at 1.5 mgs per sec,=3D20 > point to point. As soon as you get into ISDN and DSL, the rates=3D20 > change. Also, local trafiic on your network and any subnets you are=3D20 > on with your provider also can be a factor. > > On really bad or heavy days, I have seen these rates go up to 50 ms.=3D20 > Of course when pinging, let's say, Brazil, rates can be 500 ms to in=3D20 > the thousands with many packet losses. > > Hope this helps... > > >Since this seems to be the topic at hand: > > > > > >I created an application that goes out and runs a set of externals that > >returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers.=3D20 > > > >The hard part of this application I received help with from this list, > >but, the last part of this application I have ran into a wall. > > > >I need to know where I can be "steered" out on the web to find out ping > >rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I am trying to assign > >different images to different ping rates, but, to be honest, I have no > >idea what is considered good or bad AND, I don't even know where to > >start on the web trying to find that information. > > > >Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly appreciated! Thank > >you! > > > >Steve > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > >Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > >Who server is it now :-) > > > >Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > >Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm > >Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude > >Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > >Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > >Poing! > > > >>Pong! > >> > >>I was wondering if there was a problem too... > >> > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >>Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46 > >>To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > >>Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping > >> > >> > >>My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to make sure I > >didn't > >>get bounced from the list. > >> > >>Thanks > >> > >>Steve Fogelson > >>Internet Commerce Solutions > >>_______________________________________________________________________ > >_ > >>TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > >>_______________________________________________________________________ > >_ > >>TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > > >-- > >________________________________________________________________________ > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > >________________________________________________________________________ > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > >________________________________________________________________________ > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > --=3D20 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 12:52:50 -0600 > From: "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Please Clarify > > > Steve > > Is this the new rule now? > > Steve > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=3D3D20 > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:40 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > Subject: Witango-Talk: Please Clarify > > Now that one platform has left the version 5 Beta world, we've now got > readers who are using at least 3 different versions of Witango/Tango > (3.x, > 2000/4.x, and 5.x). Therefore it would help everyone if when you post to > the > list, you could provide some general information when asking a question. > I > was reading the reply that Atrix sent, which is correct if the product > is > Witango 4.x/2000 and earlier but is incorrect if you are using Witango > 5.0 > or greater. > > Please include version, platform, database, method of connection (ODBC, > iODBC, OCI, etc.) and any other details that would be relevant to your > question. > > Thanks, > > Steve Smith > > Oakbridge Information Solutions > Office: (519) 624-4388 > GTA: (416) 606-3885 > Fax: (519) 624-3353 > Cell: (416) 606-3885 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web: http://www.oakbridge.ca > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:10:58 -0600 > From: "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Re: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > > THANK YOU! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Shubert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=3D3D20 > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:51 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > It's something like this, in the internet: > > 1-10 ms (milliseconds): Excellent (typically local 10/100 network) > 11-50 ms: Typical for T1s, T3s, etc. > 51-100 ms: Typical for Frame Relay, DSL, ISDN etc. > 101-300 ms: Typical for 56K dial-up Modems > 301+ ms: getting bad, probably some congestion > 1000+ ms (1 second): horrible, mis-route or some other failure > > You should always do about 10 pings and get the average, since a packet > drop, a route build, or a collision can cause the occasional packet to > be hundreds of ms more than it should be. > > Robert Shubert > Tronics > > "Campbell, Steve V." wrote: > >=3D3D20 > > Since this seems to be the topic at hand: > >=3D3D20 > > I created an application that goes out and runs a set of externals > that > > returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers. > >=3D3D20 > > The hard part of this application I received help with from this list, > > but, the last part of this application I have ran into a wall. > >=3D3D20 > > I need to know where I can be "steered" out on the web to find out > ping > > rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I am trying to > assign > > different images to different ping rates, but, to be honest, I have no > > idea what is considered good or bad AND, I don't even know where to > > start on the web trying to find that information. > >=3D3D20 > > Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly appreciated! > Thank > > you! > >=3D3D20 > > Steve > >=3D3D20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > >=3D3D20 > > Who server is it now :-) > >=3D3D20 > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm > > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > >=3D3D20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > >=3D3D20 > > Poing! > >=3D3D20 > > >Pong! > > > > > >I was wondering if there was a problem too... > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46 > > >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > > > >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to make sure I > > didn't > > >get bounced from the list. > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > >Steve Fogelson > > >Internet Commerce Solutions > > > >_______________________________________________________________________ > > _ > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > >_______________________________________________________________________ > > _ > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > >=3D3D20 > > -- > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > >=3D3D20 > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:25:51 -0500 > From: "THOMAS PETERS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: OT - Happy Anniversary to Me > > > <html><div style=3D3D'background-color:'><DIV> > <P>you da man...<BR><BR></P></DIV> > <DIV></DIV><BR><BR><BR>Thomas Peters=3D20 > <DIV></DIV> > <DIV></DIV>Imagery Graphics=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>Home: 603-598-7544=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>Mobile: 603-566-5406=3D20 > <DIV></DIV> > <DIV></DIV> > <DIV></DIV> > <DIV></DIV>>From: "Steve Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > <WITANGO-TALK@W= > =3D > ITANGO.COM> > <DIV></DIV>>Subject: Witango-Talk: OT - Happy Anniversary to Me=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:51:22 -0500=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>I'm not sure why I remember this kind of useless trivia, = > =3D > but if my memory=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>serves me correctly, I joined EveryWare on November 25th = > =3D > 1995. Yesterday=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>marked 7 years since I first used Tango and became > a member = > =3D > of the original=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>Tango-Talk list and I've enjoyed every minute.=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>Thank you to all of you who have made the last 7 years so = > =3D > enjoyable and I=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>look forward to spending many more years here.=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>Steve Smith=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>Oakbridge Information Solutions=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>Office: (519) 624-4388=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>GTA: (416) 606-3885=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>Fax: (519) 624-3353=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>Cell: (416) 606-3885=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>Web: http://www.oakbridge.ca=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>___________________________________________________ > _________= > =3D > ____________=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>>TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to =3D > [EMAIL PROTECTED]=3D20 > <DIV></DIV>> with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body=3D20 > <DIV></DIV></div><br clear=3D3Dall><hr>Add photos to your e-mail with <a = > =3D > href=3D3D"http://g.msn.com/8HMFEN/2022";>MSN 8.</a> Get 2 months > FREE*.</htm= > l>=3D > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 12:29:50 -0700 > From: Troy Sosamon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > > Something else to think about is what you are pinging. > Are you pinging all the way across the internet to someone else's > server, = > =3D > or=3D20 > are you pinging your gateway router. > You might want to think about using tracert or neo trace where you can =3D > see=3D20 > the timing of each hop along the way. Once you get past your > firewall,=3D2= > 0 > router, and your ISPs gateway, you don't have any control over > the timing. = > =3D > =3D20 > I have an automated IP monitor that continually pings the gateway for my = > =3D > DSL=3D20 > router, so I know that my connection is always up, and when it > goes down, = > =3D > I=3D20 > know it before qwest (my isp) does. > > Troy Sosamon > > =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D Original Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] = > at 11/26/02 =3D > 11:50 am > >It's something like this, in the internet: > > > >1-10 ms (milliseconds): Excellent (typically local 10/100 network) > >11-50 ms: Typical for T1s, T3s, etc. > >51-100 ms: Typical for Frame Relay, DSL, ISDN etc. > >101-300 ms: Typical for 56K dial-up Modems > >301+ ms: getting bad, probably some congestion > >1000+ ms (1 second): horrible, mis-route or some other failure > > > >You should always do about 10 pings and get the average, since a packet > >drop, a route build, or a collision can cause the occasional packet to > >be hundreds of ms more than it should be. > > > >Robert Shubert > >Tronics > > > >"Campbell, Steve V." wrote: > >> > >> Since this seems to be the topic at hand: > >> > >> I created an application that goes out and runs a set of externals that > >> returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers. > >> > >> The hard part of this application I received help with from this list, > >> but, the last part of this application I have ran into a wall. > >> > >> I need to know where I can be "steered" out on the web to find out ping > >> rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I am trying to assign > >> different images to different ping rates, but, to be honest, I have no > >> idea what is considered good or bad AND, I don't even know where to > >> start on the web trying to find that information. > >> > >> Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly appreciated! Thank > >> you! > >> > >> Steve > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM > >> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > >> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > >> > >> Who server is it now :-) > >> > >> Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > >> Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm > >> Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM > >> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > >> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > >> > >> Poing! > >> > >> >Pong! > >> > > >> >I was wondering if there was a problem too... > >> > > >> > > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46 > >> >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > >> >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping > >> > > >> > > >> >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to make sure I > >> didn't > >> >get bounced from the list. > >> > > >> >Thanks > >> > > >> >Steve Fogelson > >> >Internet Commerce Solutions > >> > >_______________________________________________________________________= > =3D > > >> _ > >> >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > >> > >_______________________________________________________________________= > =3D > > >> _ > >> >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > >> > >> -- > >> > ________________________________________________________________________= > =3D > > >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED]= > =3D > > >> with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > >> > >> > ________________________________________________________________________= > =3D > > >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED]= > =3D > > >> with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > >> > ________________________________________________________________________= > =3D > > >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED]= > =3D > > >> with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > >________________________________________________________________________ > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:35:51 -0500 > From: "Steve Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Please Clarify > > > As far as I know, there are no rules for the list, it's always been > something that we should be doing. I've seen answers that have been =3D > provided > that were well intended, and were in some ways correct, but were not > accurate for the specific question because the original post failed to > include that it was a specific platform, etc. It was a gentle reminder =3D > that > I used to post (when I was list Mom) whenever a new version went into > production which as we all know, hasn't happened in a very, very, long =3D > time. > The response that Atrix sent made me remember. > > Hope this helps, > > Steve Smith > > Oakbridge Information Solutions > Office: (519) 624-4388 > GTA: (416) 606-3885 > Fax: (519) 624-3353 > Cell: (416) 606-3885 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web: http://www.oakbridge.ca > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Campbell, Steve V. > > Sent: November 26, 2002 1:53 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Please Clarify > > > > > > Steve > > > > Is this the new rule now? > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:40 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > Subject: Witango-Talk: Please Clarify > > > > Now that one platform has left the version 5 Beta world, we've now got > > readers who are using at least 3 different versions of Witango/Tango > > (3.x, > > 2000/4.x, and 5.x). Therefore it would help everyone if when you post to > > the > > list, you could provide some general information when asking a question. > > I > > was reading the reply that Atrix sent, which is correct if the product > > is > > Witango 4.x/2000 and earlier but is incorrect if you are using Witango > > 5.0 > > or greater. > > > > Please include version, platform, database, method of connection (ODBC, > > iODBC, OCI, etc.) and any other details that would be relevant to your > > question. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Steve Smith > > > > Oakbridge Information Solutions > > Office: (519) 624-4388 > > GTA: (416) 606-3885 > > Fax: (519) 624-3353 > > Cell: (416) 606-3885 > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Web: http://www.oakbridge.ca > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 17:04:16 -0600 > From: "Wilcox, Jamileh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: <@INCLUDE> problem > > > Is there a problem with using <@INCLUDE> with a TAF file? > > Or a problem with nesting <@INCLUDE> in an inline frame? > > If so, is there another method to use? > > I've got an entry page that uses an IFrame with a taf src file. That > src file has an <@INCLUDE> for another taf file. =3D3D20 > > The browser shows the structure of the final taf file (i.e., the If/Else > statements, the Search statements, etc) rather than the correct output. > There's also a couple of extra brackets thrown in for good measure (like > so): ]]> > > I've searched all 3 tafs for open brackets, open tags, etc., without any > luck, both looking through the tafs & using the View Source. I've > stripped all 3 tafs down to essentials (just HTML, HEAD, BODY, etc.) and > still have the same problem (which seems to eliminate the open tags > possibility). I've created new copies of all 3 tafs. Nothing seems to > fix this, so I'm starting to wonder if I'm doing something that Witango > just won't do. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks! > jamileh > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 15:51:02 -0800 > From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem > > > This is because the sub TAF (TAF Call in an @INCLUDE) reference is not > processed as a TAF by the server. It is just passed through as XML > inside. > The original @INCLUDE > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm=3D20 > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Wilcox, Jamileh > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 3:04 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > Subject: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem > > Is there a problem with using <@INCLUDE> with a TAF file? > > Or a problem with nesting <@INCLUDE> in an inline frame? > > If so, is there another method to use? > > I've got an entry page that uses an IFrame with a taf src file. That > src file has an <@INCLUDE> for another taf file. =3D20 > > The browser shows the structure of the final taf file (i.e., the If/Else > statements, the Search statements, etc) rather than the correct output. > There's also a couple of extra brackets thrown in for good measure (like > so): ]]> > > I've searched all 3 tafs for open brackets, open tags, etc., without any > luck, both looking through the tafs & using the View Source. I've > stripped all 3 tafs down to essentials (just HTML, HEAD, BODY, etc.) and > still have the same problem (which seems to eliminate the open tags > possibility). I've created new copies of all 3 tafs. Nothing seems to > fix this, so I'm starting to wonder if I'm doing something that Witango > just won't do. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks! > jamileh > > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 18:09:29 -0600 > From: "Wilcox, Jamileh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem > > > Well, I tried using branch in the SRC file (instead of the INCLUDE), but > nothing shows up at all with that. > > It sounds like you're saying I should set up the branch in the first > taf, but I don't know how to set up a branch within an <IFRAME>. Can > that be done? > > Thanks! j > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: run run [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=3D3D20 > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:48 PM > > To: Wilcox, Jamileh > > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem > >=3D3D20 > >=3D3D20 > >=3D3D20 > > PLEASE REPLY TO THIS ADDRESS: > >=3D3D20 > > First, you ought to try branch action for your parent=3D3D20 > > frame and than use <@include> in your child frame. > >=3D3D20 > > The "]]>" is an xml source of your tango code. > > It's not translated properly from tango.dtd partly > > because parant frame call(using <@include>) the > > <@include> source code of inner frame.. > >=3D3D20 > > Anyway, See Branch action for more detail, I think > > this will help you.=3D3D20 > >=3D3D20 > > Tabi.. > >=3D3D20 > >=3D3D20 > >=3D3D20 > > --- "Wilcox, Jamileh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Is there a problem with using <@INCLUDE> with a TAF > > > file? > > >=3D3D20 > > > Or a problem with nesting <@INCLUDE> in an inline > > > frame? > > >=3D3D20 > > > If so, is there another method to use? > > >=3D3D20 > > > I've got an entry page that uses an IFrame with a > > > taf src file. That > > > src file has an <@INCLUDE> for another taf file. > > >=3D3D20 > > > The browser shows the structure of the final taf > > > file (i.e., the If/Else > > > statements, the Search statements, etc) rather than > > > the correct output. > > > There's also a couple of extra brackets thrown in > > > for good measure (like > > > so): ]]> > > >=3D3D20 > > > I've searched all 3 tafs for open brackets, open > > > tags, etc., without any > > > luck, both looking through the tafs & using the View > > > Source. I've > > > stripped all 3 tafs down to essentials (just HTML, > > > HEAD, BODY, etc.) and > > > still have the same problem (which seems to > > > eliminate the open tags > > > possibility). I've created new copies of all 3 > > > tafs. Nothing seems to > > > fix this, so I'm starting to wonder if I'm doing > > > something that Witango > > > just won't do. > > >=3D3D20 > > > Any suggestions? > > >=3D3D20 > > > Thanks! > > > jamileh > > >=3D3D20 > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > __________ > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to=3D3D20 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > > > message body > >=3D3D20 > >=3D3D20 > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now.=3D3D20 > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 18:00:23 -0600 > From: "Wilcox, Jamileh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem > > > That would explain it. OK, back to the drawing board. > > Thanks! j > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=3D3D20 > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:51 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem > >=3D3D20 > >=3D3D20 > > This is because the sub TAF (TAF Call in an @INCLUDE)=3D3D20 > > reference is not processed as a TAF by the server. It is just=3D3D20 > > passed through as XML inside. The original @INCLUDE > >=3D3D20 > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > Authorized Witango Reseller > http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm=3D3= > D2=3D > 0 > > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > >=3D3D20 > >=3D3D20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]=3D3D20 > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On > Behalf Of Wilcox,=3D3D20 > > Jamileh > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 3:04 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > Subject: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem > >=3D3D20 > > Is there a problem with using <@INCLUDE> with a TAF file? > >=3D3D20 > > Or a problem with nesting <@INCLUDE> in an inline frame? > >=3D3D20 > > If so, is there another method to use? > >=3D3D20 > > I've got an entry page that uses an IFrame with a taf src=3D3D20 > > file. That src file has an <@INCLUDE> for another taf file. =3D3D20 > >=3D3D20 > > The browser shows the structure of the final taf file (i.e.,=3D3D20 > > the If/Else statements, the Search statements, etc) rather=3D3D20 > > than the correct output. There's also a couple of extra=3D3D20 > > brackets thrown in for good measure (like > > so): ]]> > >=3D3D20 > > I've searched all 3 tafs for open brackets, open tags, etc.,=3D3D20 > > without any luck, both looking through the tafs & using the=3D3D20 > > View Source. I've stripped all 3 tafs down to essentials=3D3D20 > > (just HTML, HEAD, BODY, etc.) and still have the same problem=3D3D20 > > (which seems to eliminate the open tags possibility). I've=3D3D20 > > created new copies of all 3 tafs. Nothing seems to fix this,=3D3D20 > > so I'm starting to wonder if I'm doing something that Witango=3D3D20 > > just won't do. > >=3D3D20 > > Any suggestions? > >=3D3D20 > > Thanks! > > jamileh > >=3D3D20 > > ______________________________________________________________ > > __________ > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to=3D3D20 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > >=3D3D20 > > ______________________________________________________________ > > __________ > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to=3D3D20 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > >=3D3D20 > > ------------------------------ > > > End of witango-talk Digest V01 #880 > *********************************** > > > ------------------------------ > > > End of witango-talk Digest V01 #881 > *********************************** > > > ------------------------------ > > > End of witango-talk Digest V01 #882 > *********************************** > > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body ________________________________________________________________________ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body
