Good eye Robert,

I agree, the steps involved could be tricky.

Your suggestion is interesting, but maybe dropping the use of
<@USERREFERENCEARGUMENT> altogether is even better.

Just my thinking.....

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Shubert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:14 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Critical Issue
> 
> 
> I'm not so sure about this. Since Witango will attempt to attach the
> user variable store to a request based on the cookie (then ARGs)
> -BEFORE- any code is executed, this would mean that the 
> request in which
> you are assigning the Witango_Reference cookie would itself not have a
> valid user variable store. You would, in this case, have to 
> refresh the
> user to regain their cookie based user var store, and a refresh like
> this would be somewhat tricky.
> 
> I wonder if a special ARG like
> "Force_UserReference=123456789012345678901234" might be 
> something to put
> on the wish list.
> 
> Robert
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 2:21 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Critical Issue
> 
> If this is the case then you could force the new session cookie to use
> the
> non-ssl UserReference by forcing the _UserReference passed as a search
> arg
> into the ssl session cookie
> by the following
> 
> <@ASSIGN Witango_UserReference VALUE=<@ARG _UserReference> 
> SCOPE=COOKIE>
> Do this as the First code encountered
> 
> this would re-establish the link.
> 
> Though I could see where change the precedence could have a profound
> effect
> 
> Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
> -Authorized WiTango Reseller
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefan Gonick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 8:31 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: Robert Shubert
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Critical Issue
> 
> 
> I think that the key here is you said that you are losing
> the session as you go from non-ssl to ssl. Prior to version
> 062, the user reference in the search args was given
> priority over the session cookie. This worked great
> for switching to ssl. In version 062, the session cookie
> takes precedence. Bob Shubert can explain this better,
> but switching to ssl only works if the user hasn't been
> there before in which case there is no session cookie
> and the user ref search arg establishes the session.
> If the user goes back and forth in some way (this is
> where Bob needs to step in) there can be a different
> cookie on the ssl URL and, therefore, different user
> sessions.
> 
> Damn, it sounded so clear when Bob explained it,
> but it's coming out muddled now. I hope that he comes
> in and clarifies this, but I think that I'm on the right track.
> 
> Stefan
> 
> At 07:13 PM 9/4/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >I have a recent issue with a site
> >
> >Witango server V5.062 windows 200 server.
> >
> >Intermittently the session is lost ( I boot them out if the user
> variable
> we
> >need is not present.
> >
> >Rest assured we pass userreferance arguments everywhere and I mean
> >everywhere.
> >
> >We also pass a random number between 100,000 and 1,000,000,000
> >
> >We also do everything you can with the headers and IIS to force new
> pages.
> >
> >Prior to going to V5.062 it seemed the only time session was lost was
> when
> >we might expect it. Improper use of back buttons and refreshes after
> logout.
> >
> >But in the last two weeks we are seeing loss of session when moving
> between
> >the HTTP site and HTTPS.
> >
> >The directory does not change just the SSL
> >
> >It is intermittent. When it happens it seems to last about 2 
> hours and
> >effect most but not all people.
> >
> >It resolves by itself.
> >
> >I even created a small simple taf that just tests it by printing my
> name as
> >a user variable to the page.
> >
> >When it is happening the test file confirms the loss of session. When
> it is
> >not all works fine.
> >
> >When you are booted out the same user reference number comes up no
> matter
> >who it happens to and it is a number that was fist used about 2 weeks
> ago
> >from what I see in the logs.
> >
> >So... I stop the service and deleted the file in the Witango Server
> variable
> >cache directory and then restarted the server.
> >
> >I submitted the file with my bug report.
> >
> >Does this sound like what other people were seeing on the list?
> >
> >Does removing the file fix the problem?
> >
> >Does it re occur?
> >
> >Has anyone heard back from customer support?
> >
> >This is my biggest client so this is a serious major problem.
> >--
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