Ok, Just clarifying here.

I am not using a USER variable in the code I am calling the Search ARG and
replacing the value the Witango placed in the cookie. You could start your
SSL pages with a generic page that doesn't require user variables then have
them click to continue. This would create the required trip back to the
server to switch the reference values. the user vars from the original
reference should be intact.

Ok, I have attached how I have done what I have called a fast round trip. I
have done this for other cases and thought it might work here. It check to
see if the variable you want is empty and then does the round trip code.
This happens really fast.



Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Shubert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 2:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Critical Issue


I'm not so sure about this. Since Witango will attempt to attach the
user variable store to a request based on the cookie (then ARGs)
-BEFORE- any code is executed, this would mean that the request in which
you are assigning the Witango_Reference cookie would itself not have a
valid user variable store. You would, in this case, have to refresh the
user to regain their cookie based user var store, and a refresh like
this would be somewhat tricky.

I wonder if a special ARG like
"Force_UserReference=123456789012345678901234" might be something to put
on the wish list.

Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 2:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Critical Issue

If this is the case then you could force the new session cookie to use
the
non-ssl UserReference by forcing the _UserReference passed as a search
arg
into the ssl session cookie
by the following

<@ASSIGN Witango_UserReference VALUE=<@ARG _UserReference> SCOPE=COOKIE>
Do this as the First code encountered

this would re-establish the link.

Though I could see where change the precedence could have a profound
effect

Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Gonick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 8:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Robert Shubert
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Critical Issue


I think that the key here is you said that you are losing
the session as you go from non-ssl to ssl. Prior to version
062, the user reference in the search args was given
priority over the session cookie. This worked great
for switching to ssl. In version 062, the session cookie
takes precedence. Bob Shubert can explain this better,
but switching to ssl only works if the user hasn't been
there before in which case there is no session cookie
and the user ref search arg establishes the session.
If the user goes back and forth in some way (this is
where Bob needs to step in) there can be a different
cookie on the ssl URL and, therefore, different user
sessions.

Damn, it sounded so clear when Bob explained it,
but it's coming out muddled now. I hope that he comes
in and clarifies this, but I think that I'm on the right track.

Stefan

At 07:13 PM 9/4/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>I have a recent issue with a site
>
>Witango server V5.062 windows 200 server.
>
>Intermittently the session is lost ( I boot them out if the user
variable
we
>need is not present.
>
>Rest assured we pass userreferance arguments everywhere and I mean
>everywhere.
>
>We also pass a random number between 100,000 and 1,000,000,000
>
>We also do everything you can with the headers and IIS to force new
pages.
>
>Prior to going to V5.062 it seemed the only time session was lost was
when
>we might expect it. Improper use of back buttons and refreshes after
logout.
>
>But in the last two weeks we are seeing loss of session when moving
between
>the HTTP site and HTTPS.
>
>The directory does not change just the SSL
>
>It is intermittent. When it happens it seems to last about 2 hours and
>effect most but not all people.
>
>It resolves by itself.
>
>I even created a small simple taf that just tests it by printing my
name as
>a user variable to the page.
>
>When it is happening the test file confirms the loss of session. When
it is
>not all works fine.
>
>When you are booted out the same user reference number comes up no
matter
>who it happens to and it is a number that was fist used about 2 weeks
ago
>from what I see in the logs.
>
>So... I stop the service and deleted the file in the Witango Server
variable
>cache directory and then restarted the server.
>
>I submitted the file with my bug report.
>
>Does this sound like what other people were seeing on the list?
>
>Does removing the file fix the problem?
>
>Does it re occur?
>
>Has anyone heard back from customer support?
>
>This is my biggest client so this is a serious major problem.
>--
>Dan Stein
>Digital Software Solutions
>799 Evergreen Circle
>Telford PA 18969
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>Mobile: 610-256-2843
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>
>
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