Hello again,

Im on windows, both server and development. As custom scopes timeout(?),
this is not an option. I need the app vars and objects to be available all
the time, from server startup to infinity. Ive sent a request to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I cant wait for a clarification in this matter.

I dont mean to be rude puking application vars all over this list. Im quite
frustrated over this since server uptime is vital for our companys
reputation.

Peter


----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: application vars timing out


Peter understood.

I was just suggesting something very painless since you can just do a find a
replace on the whole project to change application scopes to whatever you
name the custom scope to be.

I agree it should not be happening and the server should not be crashing and
failing to restart.

I missed the beginning of this are you on Mac or windows?



I have not found a problem with custom scopes timing out.

on 11/11/04 2:23, Peter Ternstr�m at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I upgraded from 5.065 to 5.5 hoping to solve this issue. So, the problem exists in both versions. Im not going to re-program our entire application to use custom scope vars instead of application vars, just because to find another bug or undocumented feature in witango application server. Im hoping with can solve this issue as soon as possible so we can start using their software as stated in the manual. Until then - it is server watch for us. Guess what? Server crashed this night, too! For no apparent reason. Im so tired of this.

Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: application vars timing out


I don't know about Peter, but my situation is occurring with 5.065, so it wouldn't appear to be a problem exclusive to 5.5. Witango support is currently researching the issue with me, so if I find out anymore I'd be happy to share.

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:57:36 -0500, Dan Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Peter,

Did this problem happen with with 5.065. Can you roll back to that to see
if
it is a 5.5 problem?

Could there be memory issues are you running out of memory to store the
variables from all the different scopes.

As a work around have you tried just loading these as a custom scope. If
I
remember right these will function just like and application scope.

I use these when I need them and my ISP does not allow application scope.

Dan



on 11/10/04 2:18, Peter Ternstr�m at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello all,

we're having the exact same problem - application vars and objects
stored in
application scope time out and our application seizes to work properly.
This
is a major issue for us, since we are hosting about 140 communities on
the
web and noone can log in. We have tried to solve this by checking if app
vars are existant upon login, but this ultimately (after a number of
logins,
usually once every couple of days) causes a server crash caused by
reloading
application vars and objects stored in application scope discussed in
other
threads of witango talk.

In fact, this is such a big problem for us, that we are looking for
other
program languages for our application. The program language and
application
server HAS TO WORK ACCORDING TO THE MANUAL. Otherwise our developers
have
guess what functionality witango really supports, and all time to try to
build an app "by the book" is lost.

We would really like some input from you guys and with on this issue. We
are
strung in a situation where at least one of us has to keep an eye on the
server and reload app vars if necessary- 24/7. Maybe it is a
configuration
problem on our side? We only run one application, thus have not
configured
other applications in applications.ini than "default". (Yes, we have
tried
to configure another application, but still same result - loss of app
vars).

Is anyone out there using application vars at all? Do you have the same
problem? Is there a solution?

We are running Win 2003, Apache 2.049, SQL 7 (on separate server), and
Witango 5.5.

Grateful for all input!
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 12:41 AM
Subject: Witango-Talk: application vars timing out


We are experiencing 2 problems:

1. It appears that our application variables are timing out after the
system variabletimeout period. On page 349 of the Witango 5
Programmer's Guide.pdf, it says that application variables NEVER time
out, yet ours do. I tried to resolve this by setting the
variabletimeout trigger which on page 485 of the same document says
that we can set that var in the application scope. When I try this I
get this error, "You may not set the configuration variable
(variabletimeouttrigger) in the (application) scope".

The document says I am able to set this, yet I am not able to. Is
there a way I can set this var in the application scope? How do I stop
my application vars from timing out rather than just setting the
system variabletimeout to a really huge number?


2. The timeformat and timestampformat specified in our applications.ini file is being ignored. The system settings are used for these values instead of our application specific ones. I am not sure if this is related to problem 1 or not. How do I make Witango pay attention to the timeformat and timestamp format in the applications.ini file? (yes the Witango server has been restarted)

We are running Witango Application Server (Standard Edition Upgrade)
5.0.1.065

Thanks for any tips or information you can provide.
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