Robert,
I can agree your statement. I have the same results.
If you run Witango on Linux, then you must have a very good experience with Linux.
If you run Witango on Apple, then you must know how iODBC work.
Running Witango on a Winbox is more simple and you get more tools to complain your applications.
But in all cases: Witango run very stable - if the system is correctly configured. If not, so you run on all systems into troubles...
Just my 1cent [EURO]
regards
Daniel
----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Garcia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Witango Server on OS X 10.3
Technically linux and os x, similar hardware on windows, should give you better "throughput" and thus better performance, but not much. But the headache factor is enormous. Time is money.
I do manage a couple of linux boxes, using VNC and the terminal. But Remote Desktop Connection, and other windows tools, just make it so simple. And the odbc environment is rock solid, and since there are no choices, only MS ODBC, it just works. Not like iODBC, or unixODBC, etc.
Also, like linux, hardware is dirt cheap. I set up Redundant windows servers for just a few hundred dollars a piece. Gigabyte MBs, DDR3200 ram, AMD 3000 processors, no CD, no floppy, and a microATX case. If one goes down, I just swap the whole damn thing, and fix it, and replace. In my datacenter, there are guys with racks of XServes, and my RAIC puts handles more bandwidth than all of them. We are hosting millions of images, with several million page views a month, with each page view showing an average of 25 thumbnails. Each thumbnail is served directly from a blob in the db through witango. All going through the ODBC sys. I have setup several benchtest apps to simulate hitting this system as hard as possible, and OS X server has always been the most troublesome, and 99% of the time related to the ODBC subsystem. I have been able to get wiango 065 to run for hours without crashing on my bench tests, but windows performs better under this load. Linux could be setup and I tested, but even more of a pain to manage when compared to windows and mac.
Every so often I install the latest fedora core, or suse, or mandrake dist, but windows is still much easier to manage. And the interface for services is the best. I write small components as windows services all the time, and the UI on windows for services is so simple, and I can make a snapin in one console showing all my servers and there services, and manage.
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I disagree, I have found the server to be rock solid since 10.3. Versions before that had a number of issues... the product requires almost no maintenance and runs Witango, Tomcat and JBoss very well. We run MySQL for the database, MyODBC and the installed ODBC drivers from Apple. We have been running on single and dual processor G4s, and G5s for a number of years. They all have at least 1 gb RAM. We moved our Auto Trader software from Tango 2000/Oracle on Solaris a year ago and have been very pleased. We did evaluate a Dell Server running windows server but found that the G5 performed better and was much easier to maintain.
I would not run Witango on a 10.2.x server as it proved to be troublesome for us...
On 26-Mar-05, at 10:23 AM, Dan Stein wrote:
Roland,
Even where I have all Mac clients I use windows for the server for both FMP
and witango. It is just a better server environment and easier to maintain
then even linux.
You really should try to move them to windows. I am also a Mac person from
lisa days but Macs ODBC and server technologies just are not there yet.
on 3/26/05 0:25, Roland Dumas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/25/05 9:06 PM, "Robert Garcia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Roland, you would probably save a lot of headaches if you could see if
the guys at witango will let you trade in your license. I don't know if
that is possible.
If witango is as unstable for this box on 10.3 as it is on 10.2.8, we'll
probably try to swap for linux, that being the client's preferred next
platform. The challenge is that the client's trust of witango is very low,
since it didn't work on the recommended Mac OS, how can they be sure it will
run on any platform?
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