Re: Witango-Talk: .NET vs Witango vs. Oracle

[Phil Wade]

Robert, Even with all the evidence before them, because no one has heard of it, and because they all think a REAL application should be writtin in .NET, or JSP, or PHP. We are also working on a redesign, and the designers are also giving the same kind of input. Cuz dreamweaver doesn't interface with it or some crap like that. "Because no one has heard of it" is such a bizzare argument.� Yes people use it all the time but in my experience it is not the reason for making a decision.� It is just a convenient argument that is hard to rebuke so you need to have a strategy ready for when it comes up. Every new client anyone gets has not heard of them until they are introduced to them for the first time by somebody, but their intelligence and reasoning power manages to kick in and they get past it.� You need to sell your own Company to get the work, so why is the software tools you use any different.� Sell it as you would your own skills.� The IT industry has matured a lot since the days of FUD and hype.��Start making the argument about deliverables, cost of delivery, cost of ownership, meeting deadlines, risk management, code consistency, etc and stop the argument being about technology.� Make it about how you will perform the task.��If they want the "name brand technology" or Standards based solution then you can offer them J2EE.��The Witango Java Framework and compiler were developed for this reason.� A few clicks and the application can be deployed to a J2EE server.� You can develop with the Dev Studio and deploy to JBoss, BEA, WebSphere, SUN, etc.� If a company has heard of .Net then they have definitely heard of J2EE. With a quick scan of the email domains on the Witango-list archive you can see that Witango is being used within organisations such as Honeywell, NASA, Harvard University, cisco Systems,�Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Qantas, Singtel, irish Government, etc.� It is being used in 40+ countries from Ireland, Norway, Italy,�Israel, Malaysia, Korea, Japan, etc.� This type of information�should be able to set their minds at ease.��Use other Witango users you have worked with as references for the technology as you would use existing clients as references for your own work.� If you ask on the list I am sure you will get more "Names" to use. Just for the record there is a plug-ins which integrate the Witango meta language with Dreamweaver: http://witango.webenergy-sw.com/witangotags.html. It has been put to my attention, that the value of these assets is significantly less, just cuz they are written in witango and the new owner will most likely have to rewrite.� � The Witango Java Framework and compiler were developed for this reason.� Tell them that it is a J2EE application. What can Witango Inc., or Ent. do? Maybe a year or so of offering the standard server for $600, and the dev environment for less. �In the scheme of things the cost of Witango is not the issue.� As a percentage of the overall project costs it is usually in low single digit percentage points.� In a $60K project Witango is less than 5% of the cost but is probably responsible for a 30-50% cost saving in the development of the application. <not speaking on behalf of witango> At the end of the day if a company is willing to pay you 30-50% more to develop a site in .Net, smile, be�courteous, polite and say thank you for the extra revenue as no amount of marketing, brand name awareness or reduction in price is going to help them improve their decision making process.� ; ) </not speaking on behalf of witango> Phil ________________________________________________________________________ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf