Hi Bill,

Have you tried: 

<img src="download.taf?_uid1=<@COLUMN "thumb_id">&random=<@RANDOM>">

Just have your server-side code ignore the "random" argument. 

Works for me.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Conlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 2:21 PM
> To: Witango-Talk
> Subject: Witango-Talk: HTTP file cache
> 
> I know a few people on this list have addressed the issue of dealing 
> with cached files.  Here's my scenario:
> 
> I go to an admin page, and get some info on a file stored in the db.  
> The page includes a thumbnail (also stored in the db), such as:
> 
> <img src="download.taf?_uid1=<@COLUMN "thumb_id">
> 
> the browser requests and caches the thumbnail image.  Response header 
> for this download is:
> 
> http://ccmh3.tothept.com/download.taf?_uID=165
> 
> Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 19:13:17 GMT
> Server: Apache/2.0.54 (Unix) mod_perl/1.99_16 Perl/v5.8.5 DAV/2 
> PHP/4.3.10
> Accept-Ranges: bytes
> content-disposition: inline; filename=spiritofcaring_gray_thumb.jpg
> Last-Modified: Monday, 22-Sep-2003 10:48:26 GMT
> Content-Length: 5448
> Content-Type: image/jpeg
> 
> I then upload a replacement file, and in the process, the application 
> invokes ImageMagick to generate a new thumbnail, and then 
> displays the 
> same page with updated information.  Again the thumbnail is 
> referenced 
> as
> 
> <img src="download.taf?_uid1=<@COLUMN "thumb_id">
> 
> but the previous, cached, version appears.
> 
> If I force a cache refresh, my new response header looks like:
> 
> http://ccmh3.tothept.com/download.taf?_uID=165
> 
> Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 19:42:50 GMT
> Server: Apache/2.0.54 (Unix) mod_perl/1.99_16 Perl/v5.8.5 DAV/2 
> PHP/4.3.10
> Accept-Ranges: bytes
> content-disposition: inline; 
> filename=thumb_spiritofcaring_logo_gray_sm.png
> Last-Modified: Thursday, 04-Aug-2005 12:42:05 GMT
> Content-Length: 6681
> Content-Type: image/png
> 
> The thumbnail info is generally static, and should therefore be 
> cacheable, but in this case I'm displaying the stale info.  
> Does anyone 
> know any tricks, or must I instead create an entirely new URI, giving 
> the thumbnail a new ID?
> 
> thanks.
> 
> Bill
> 
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