Hi Bill,

Using the local$HttpHeader variable you can dictate any HTTP response
command you like.

Generally when it comes to controlling client-side caching I just manipulate
the "Expires" property or sometimes set a custom cookie to manage the "Last
Modified" logic.

I've looked at the eTag thing, but find it overly complex for something that
can usually be managed easier by selectively expiring your content in timed
intervals.

If that's not helping, I guess I don't understand what you're after.
Remember, when it comes to client-side caching - the User's browser will
sometimes make decisions beyond your control.

Good luck.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Conlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 2:56 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: HTTP file cache
> 
> What about entity tags  
> (http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec13.html#sec13.3.3)?
> 
> I would have an auto increment column associated with the 
> thumbnail (or  
> the source document for that matter) to use an E-Tag instead of  
> last-modified in the response header of download.taf.
> 
> I presume if you provide an entity tag, the User-Agent will have to  
> re-validate every file, but in most cases would use the cached  
> resource.  Anyone have any experience with this?
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, August 4, 2005, at 01:45  PM, Bill Conlon wrote:
> 
> > Thx Scott & Roland.  Using &amp;<@RANDOM> will indeed cause the  
> > freshly updated image to be displayed for the admin user 
> that updated  
> > the content.
> >
> > But I really want the cached items refreshed, so that other 
> users will  
> > get the new thumbnail. I hate the idea of losing the 
> ability to cache,  
> > but I need to think about this.
> >
> > bill
> >
> > On Thursday, August 4, 2005, at 01:26  PM, Scott Cadillac wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Bill,
> >>
> >> Have you tried:
> >>
> >> <img src="download.taf?_uid1=<@COLUMN 
> "thumb_id">&random=<@RANDOM>">
> >>
> >> Just have your server-side code ignore the "random" argument.
> >>
> >> Works for me.
> >>
> >> ~ Scott Cadillac
> >> ~ 403-254-5002
> >> ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >> ~ Custom Software for Business
> >>   http://custom.softwarefor.net
> >>
> >> ~ The XML-Extranet Partnership
> >> ~ P.O. Box 69006
> >>   RPO Bridlewood SW
> >>   Calgary, Alberta
> >>   Canada T2Y 4T9
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Bill Conlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 2:21 PM
> >>> To: Witango-Talk
> >>> Subject: Witango-Talk: HTTP file cache
> >>>
> >>> I know a few people on this list have addressed the issue 
> of dealing
> >>> with cached files.  Here's my scenario:
> >>>
> >>> I go to an admin page, and get some info on a file stored 
> in the db.
> >>> The page includes a thumbnail (also stored in the db), such as:
> >>>
> >>> <img src="download.taf?_uid1=<@COLUMN "thumb_id">
> >>>
> >>> the browser requests and caches the thumbnail image.  
> Response header
> >>> for this download is:
> >>>
> >>> http://ccmh3.tothept.com/download.taf?_uID=165
> >>>
> >>> Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 19:13:17 GMT
> >>> Server: Apache/2.0.54 (Unix) mod_perl/1.99_16 Perl/v5.8.5 DAV/2
> >>> PHP/4.3.10
> >>> Accept-Ranges: bytes
> >>> content-disposition: inline; 
> filename=spiritofcaring_gray_thumb.jpg
> >>> Last-Modified: Monday, 22-Sep-2003 10:48:26 GMT
> >>> Content-Length: 5448
> >>> Content-Type: image/jpeg
> >>>
> >>> I then upload a replacement file, and in the process, the 
> application
> >>> invokes ImageMagick to generate a new thumbnail, and then
> >>> displays the
> >>> same page with updated information.  Again the thumbnail is
> >>> referenced
> >>> as
> >>>
> >>> <img src="download.taf?_uid1=<@COLUMN "thumb_id">
> >>>
> >>> but the previous, cached, version appears.
> >>>
> >>> If I force a cache refresh, my new response header looks like:
> >>>
> >>> http://ccmh3.tothept.com/download.taf?_uID=165
> >>>
> >>> Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 19:42:50 GMT
> >>> Server: Apache/2.0.54 (Unix) mod_perl/1.99_16 Perl/v5.8.5 DAV/2
> >>> PHP/4.3.10
> >>> Accept-Ranges: bytes
> >>> content-disposition: inline;
> >>> filename=thumb_spiritofcaring_logo_gray_sm.png
> >>> Last-Modified: Thursday, 04-Aug-2005 12:42:05 GMT
> >>> Content-Length: 6681
> >>> Content-Type: image/png
> >>>
> >>> The thumbnail info is generally static, and should therefore be
> >>> cacheable, but in this case I'm displaying the stale info.
> >>> Does anyone
> >>> know any tricks, or must I instead create an entirely new 
> URI, giving
> >>> the thumbnail a new ID?
> >>>
> >>> thanks.
> >>>
> >>> Bill
> >>>
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