I am Mark Weiss. I did have a ton of issues.

I am not smart enough, alas, to grind through it all to find out every reason why. I was stable with OS9 and Tango T1,T2,T3,T4, ok basically all the versions, until we loaded it up. Been using Tango/Witango since Butler and Beta software. Runs three of our businesses.

I thought MacOSX and Witango 5.5 would be more stable and robust. So we tested for a while and switched.
Under load things fell apart constantly.
About a six months ago, I began talking with Robert and we both tried and tried to stabilize things.
Nothing lasted. I finally said uncle and suggested the unthinkable.
MY ISSUES
I have found taf's that for whatever reason, have issues that I believe brought thing down or destabilized things. So my bad on them. I take responsibility for that.
WITANGO ISSUES
Witango was unresponsive to about a 1/2 a dozen requests on the server. Just no answer. or no answer that was an answer. Sorry, I love those guys and know they are doing their best, but no answer doesn't cut it in a business environment. Sorry, but true. It probably is that I am a pain, because I just know enough to get myself in trouble.

Witango was/is unresponsive to issues with OSX Dev Studio. We have verified that for some reason, with our db Primebase, either Witango, or the OpenLink ODBC Driver, somehow the dev studio takes a perfectly good taf and rewrites the definition of a field to !CST instead of vcha, or date or tims or..... When this happens all kinds of things break. Notably, the time, date and timestamp fields. After editing in Dev Studio, I load the taf into BBEdit and exorcise all of this code and clean it up. The taf's at least, after that work right. I have no idea why this happens. Witango has responded I believe once to this problem, asking questions. By the time they did, I made a business decision....

Robert had Windows servers serving tons of stuff, under heavy load, and not cracking, or at least not that he admitted to me. Our needs are very very modest in comparison to his. If he can make something stand up to a large load, and work day in and day out, then at some point I have to run my business. Man this is hard to admit. As hard as it was to abandon my All Mac Dream in our office, on the server side I finally decided to put in a Windows Server, and a very nice machine, to the specs Robert suggested. He has done most of the work. This has been running now for 1 week. 90% of the problems we had have disappeared. I have cleaned up a few .tafs that had some kind of corruption in the Joins. It is even more stable now than 1 week ago. All our desktops are mac and I wouldn't change that for one minute and neither would any of our employees. New hires come begging for a mac within about a month of being here. But OSX Server and Witango are not dancing together and suspect won't for quite some time. Again, probably a business decision. Not trying to speak for Witango in any way. But that is my gut feeling.

The office staff and outlying warehouses who connect, are beside themselves with the speed and with the stability.

Again, this is very hard for me to say, as a mac guy, but it appears to be a sound and good business decision on the server side.

I might also add, that I have always found the mac community to be very helpful to wannabes like me... Until OSX. When I tried to get help on the Apache List, and OSX Server List the Unix Geeks were for the most part unhelpful and impatient with the likes of a code cobbler like myself. Perhaps that will be the same on the Windows side. But I hope not.

I still use the Mac Dev Studio. And now having used both, Command- anykey on the Mac works so much better than control-somekeyorFkeyorsomethingelseIcannotfigureout that takes two hands to do on a windows box. Again, like someone said to me recently, Dev Studio has to be dumbed down for the Mac guys ;-).

So there you have it. Confessions of a "died in the wool mac guy". Hell has frozen over. I hope no one takes this wrong or gets offended. However, if you do, and want to flame, flame away. I have a really thick skin. I hope that someday the mac side at Witango can prove to me it is just as stable and a valid business decision. We will see. For now it isn't. And I don't have the time to make it so. Others may or may have to, but we don't.

Yours,

Mark


On Oct 3, 2005, at 7:06 PM, Robert Garcia wrote:

Mark Weiss was having a ton of issues, over and over. Ask him about what seems to be working for him.

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On Oct 3, 2005, at 6:26 PM, Wayne Irvine wrote:


Here's a crash log entry covering one crash.

I've looked through it and the pertinent bit seems to be the last line:

Link (dyld) error:

dyld: /Applications/WitangoServer/5.5/./witangod can't open library:
libjs32.dylib  (No such file or directory, errno = 2)

Anyone know what this is?

Wayne Irvine


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