I have had it happen on tables that have not been changed in many moons.

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On Oct 20, 2005, at 9:10 AM, Peter Ternstrom wrote:

Hello All,

i have also seen the !CST in my tafs for a while now (Win 5.5 / 5.08).

When I investigated the problem I found that all !CST in my application files were from tables and fields that were newly introduced in the database, probably added in the database while writing the taf and then refreshed the table structure to see the changes (and directly dragging them in actions). The problem could also be due to the fact I was using the same data source name for two versions of the same application. The two versions had slight changes in the database - the difference between them were indicated by !CST in the tafs for the new version.

I also found that witango editor might keep table field names in the taf-file although they are not visible in the editor or exist in the database.

Im not sure how it works in other environments, but with MS SQL witango studio will show the dbo prefix in front of table names in the "details" column of database actions. Sometimes it would remove the dbo prefix, just showing the table name(s) used in the query. This behavior was to me quite random, before I found out that it was related to the !CST problem. Yes - when you had !CST errors in your query it would remove the dbo prefix in the details column.

The concusion is that it seems to be some kind of problem with caching of the table structure in witango studio. I really dont care. The most important thing is that i found a way to solve it:

The solution is to create a new datasource for the database you are working with and use "set data source" on all the queries in your project, pointing to the new datasource. This corrects all !CST errors in your tafs, including other related problems/errors. It might take a while, but it sure beats using a text editor and manually replacing them.

Peter




----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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After editing the TAFs / TCFs (with a text editor, BBEdit), I found that some tafs now had a "corrupted structure" as reported by the Witango server. If I just created a new TAF and dragged over the actions from the old one, the TAFs ran correctly. But when I examined the XML for the re-created TAF, our friend "!CST" had reappeared (more or less randomly, as far as I could tell - that is not all datatypes were incorrectly changed). If I attempted to change this back via the text editor, it rendered the files once again as corrupted structure.

If, on the other hand, I re-created the problematical update/insert



actions, the problem was solved (TAF is not corrupted, correct datatypes reported in Data Dictionary)

NOT looking forward to making tons of changes. Grateful that I put all my files under Subversion control just before starting the changes via text editor!

On Oct 20, 2005, at 7:51 AM, Dale Graham wrote:


I checked my files for the !CST characters and sure enough, I DID find them throughout recently edited TAFs and TCFs. We haven't seen much instability in our production instance that could be related to inserts and updates, but perhaps this was because we are not using the Witango server, but rather the Witango servlet.

I have been spending my morning replacing the !CST characters but brooding abt the fact that each time I edit or add a new search/ insert/update I might be adding something to edit later...

So, no, there's no database "protective" effect from using Oracle and or JDBC connectors. Same issue.

On Oct 20, 2005, at 6:43 AM, Robert Garcia wrote:



I have seen it with primebase, and MSSQL 2000, and MYSQL.

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Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

On Oct 20, 2005, at 3:08 AM, Dale Graham wrote:




We're using Tiger 10.4.2 and Oracle via JDBC, and have never experienced insert or update action corruptions. Could this be database and/or DB connector related?

We do occasionally see a tcf object's scope get "lost" shortly after being added to a TAF, but after it gets changed once (or twice) back, it finally "sticks" and we no longer have an issue with it.

On Oct 19, 2005, at 6:22 PM, Bill Conlon wrote:





Thx much. I found a used dual G4 1.25 GHz for the price of a mini, so I'll probably stick with X.3.9.

BTW, I've never had the corruption issue while running X.2.8.

bill
On Wednesday, October 19, 2005, at 03:00 PM, Robert Garcia wrote:






I do, and there are others, like Mark Weiss and Roland.

There is a serious bug that I don't think is JUST 10.4, but seems to show up more in 10.4. Your insert and update actions can get corrupted. It is a major pain, it has been reported to Witango months ago. It has not been acknowledged, and none of (AFAIK) have heard from witango on this.

See previous posts for more details on the bug.

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Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

On Oct 19, 2005, at 12:32 PM, Bill Conlon wrote:







I think I'm ready to migrate from my circa 1998 G3 desktop. Can't remember which feline is the current version, but does anyone have experience running the Dev Studio on X.4?

thx

bill

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