Mmmmm...

Sorry Stefan, but I have no problem with crawls on pages with links that
have more then 1 argument. In fact, I have a forum with over 5000 pages
all listed in G and all have multiple arguments. What Google does not
like is the ID tag or any tag that identifies a user as being unique. So
a userreference passed in the url would be bad.  

Another thing. If you are using includes of any type in tml, taf, and
even shtml or shtm, the spiders don't even know there is a call to an
external file. The include file is just that... included. If you look at
your source where there is an include file, you don't see the include
tag, you see the source of the include where the tag should be. This is
what the spiders see too.

I have several sites that use multiple arguments along with includes for
headers, footers, menus, etc., etc. All these sites are listed within
the top 5 in Google. One of these sites is #1 for several very
competative phrases. Has been for several years. All pages are taf and
all links to product pages pass multiple args in the url and as post
args. 

As for javascript menus, I have 2 sites that get crawled regularily that
use these. All pages are listed in G. In fact, G will crawl just about
anything that has an a href or http in front of it. Even if it is not a
link (just text). 

The hardest part of optimizing for G is to make sure that the URLs on
your site remain static even though the pages are dynamic. I know this
because it was hard for me to wrap my brain around this. For example...

One of these sites had a picture section that had pictures of the latest
submissions by users. Of course these pages changed almost daily. I had
a taf that searched the db and counted all that were marked as new to
diplay with the latest being first. The result was a list of pictures
that would pop up in a window and let you scroll through them with the
latest being first. Well every time G came and crawled the site, the
links to these dynamically added pages, along with the titles,
description, etc., were different! Now when you click on those links,
the pages are different then what what the title shows in G. Truly
dynamic huh? Maybe a little bit too dynamic.

In other words, dynamic urls (URLS that change over time) are bad. A url
that references one page one day, and another page on another day, will
totally hose what you want to be displyed in Google or any other of the
engines. Okay, what page it it supposed to be? The green widget that was
here yesterday? Or the blue wudget that's here today?


  

-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Gonick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 6:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Tml pages and search engines

Hi Dan,

Spiders will crawl tml files with no problem. It will crawl any file
accessible by an html link. However, Google doesn't like links with more
than one argument.

The following is good for Google:

http://www.mydomain.com/myprogram.taf?_function=list

The following is NOT good:

http://www.mydomain.com/myprogram.taf?_function=list&id=3

Spiders also can't run javascript, so links that are generated by
javascript don't work. There are many dynamic menu systems that use
javascript, and those won't be spidered.

Stefan


At 07:14 PM 3/12/2006, you wrote:
>If we make a page a TML page instead of HTML so we can put in some 
>include files and have it handled by the Witango server will the robots

>and spiders still crawl through those pages?
>
>What is the latest thinking on optimization of witango sites for the 
>search engines.
>
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