On Apr 26, 2006, at 9:11 AM, Rick Sanders wrote:
My 2 cents,
PhP is a long learning curve and isn’t powerful at all. Many sites
use it because it’s free. Coding takes forever, and it’s a
scripting engine that parses script, then executes it.
But it does have PEAR and an ever expanding codebase that you can
use. Realistically, even with the builders, which are ancient and do
not implement best practices, every witango project starts from
scratch. Of course we all have a bag of tricks to use, but what
about new shops?
And Witango is a scripting engine, too, and though it caches code, it
doesn't to my knowledge compile it. Does the witango cacher even
discard anything extraneous, like comments?
Anyway, I've found php to be very easy to use. I never even bought
an O'Reilly book, and have done a complete witango app conversion
(someone else's) in BBEdit -- without Zend. Of course, I wouldn't
claim to have 'learned' php, so you're right about the lengthy
learning curve. And there is a LOT to like with witango compared to
php -- especially variable scopes.
Compared to Cold Fusion, Cold Fusion beats it hands down in
performance and time it takes to code. Cold Fusion has superior XML
integration, and OS integration. Anyone looking at a second
programming language should look at Cold Fusion. It’s a much easier
learning curve than PhP.
MySQL has come a long way, but is still not a good platform for
enterprise applications. Microsoft SQL server 2005 ties into
Windows server 2003, and is the fastest database on windows. If
you’re into Linux, Pervasive is 30% faster than MySQL. And,
Pervasive has a free open source database too: http://
www.pervasivepostgres.com/
Don't know about PervasiveSQL, but Postgres is definitely not faster
than MyISAM. If you don't need Stored Procedures, referential
integrity, or transactions, mySQL is hard to beat. (I know mySQL 5
is adding SP, and the InnoDB tables support transactions, but my apps
are still on 3.23 and 4.1). If you do, then Postgres is the way to go.
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From: John McGowan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Probably my last code contribution
Robert,
I have no problem with your post(s). I find it disturbing that you
still haven't received documentation on the Witango JavaBean
Interface. For clarification though, was your request completely
ignored? Or were you at least told something about why they can't
or won't give you what you're looking for.
If anybody out there has something they'd like to share positive or
NEGATIVE. Please share it. Last time I checked, this was an open
forum about Witango. Information about how Witango is outperformed
3X by PHP is absolutely relevant information and should be addressed.
/John
DB1 CB14 wrote:
Robert,
I am not sure why you keep posting these types of email. I have
read your posts about moving to PHP and MySQL and how you don't
like Witango anymore but many of us do not want to learn PHP and
really like the way Witango ties everything together for us.
It is your choice to move to another platform and it is my choice
to stay with Witango. If you no longer wish to use Witango that is
fine but please move on quietly and stop beating up on the
product. When Scott Cadillac moved to .Net he did it quietly and
professionally and he seems to still be on the list and drops us
some words of wisdom from time to time. You seem to be want to
punish Witango Inc for some reason.
If you are really concerned about putting the code into open source
just create a project on sourceforge like Jason did with his
crontab taf.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Rds
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