Hey Robert, Apples and Oranges my friend! I find cold Fusion easier, and I like that develop with it straight in Dreamweaver.
It has a lot of unique features. Yes, there's tons of PhP code out there, there's also a lot of CF code too. I still love WiTango, just can't get my clients to buy into the technology. I keep getting the same question, "If it's been around since 1996, why haven't I heard of it?". Rick Sanders President 902-401-7689 www.webenergy-sw.com -----Original Message----- From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Probably my last code contribution Oh yeah, the google effect has a huge effect on the learning curve. You can find php code on anything you can think of, and start there. Try that with witango. It is better with CF, but it is amazing how much is available for php, and especially php/mysql. As far as enterprise level, look here: http://public.yahoo.com/~radwin/ As far as power, here is a presentation about php-gd, a C based graphic library as a module in php. And it doesn't require any compiling. This is just one thing, but gives a good idea. http://www.nyphp.org/content/presentations/GDintro/ To install gd on my FC5 apache/php machine, this is what it took. sudo yum install php-gd Then I restarted apache, and gd was ready and available in php. -- Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Development - eventpix.com 13653 West Park Dr Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ On Apr 26, 2006, at 9:43 AM, William M Conlon wrote: > > On Apr 26, 2006, at 9:11 AM, Rick Sanders wrote: > >> My 2 cents, >> >> >> >> PhP is a long learning curve and isn't powerful at all. Many sites >> use it because it's free. Coding takes forever, and it's a >> scripting engine that parses script, then executes it. > > But it does have PEAR and an ever expanding codebase that you can > use. Realistically, even with the builders, which are ancient and > do not implement best practices, every witango project starts from > scratch. Of course we all have a bag of tricks to use, but what > about new shops? > > And Witango is a scripting engine, too, and though it caches code, > it doesn't to my knowledge compile it. Does the witango cacher > even discard anything extraneous, like comments? > > Anyway, I've found php to be very easy to use. I never even bought > an O'Reilly book, and have done a complete witango app conversion > (someone else's) in BBEdit -- without Zend. Of course, I wouldn't > claim to have 'learned' php, so you're right about the lengthy > learning curve. And there is a LOT to like with witango compared > to php -- especially variable scopes. >> >> >> Compared to Cold Fusion, Cold Fusion beats it hands down in >> performance and time it takes to code. Cold Fusion has superior >> XML integration, and OS integration. Anyone looking at a second >> programming language should look at Cold Fusion. It's a much >> easier learning curve than PhP. >> >> >> >> MySQL has come a long way, but is still not a good platform for >> enterprise applications. Microsoft SQL server 2005 ties into >> Windows server 2003, and is the fastest database on windows. If >> you're into Linux, Pervasive is 30% faster than MySQL. And, >> Pervasive has a free open source database too: http:// >> www.pervasivepostgres.com/ > > Don't know about PervasiveSQL, but Postgres is definitely not > faster than MyISAM. If you don't need Stored Procedures, > referential integrity, or transactions, mySQL is hard to beat. (I > know mySQL 5 is adding SP, and the InnoDB tables support > transactions, but my apps are still on 3.23 and 4.1). If you do, > then Postgres is the way to go. >> <image001.jpg> >> >> Rick Sanders >> President >> 902-401-7689 >> www.webenergy-sw.com >> >> From: John McGowan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:42 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Probably my last code contribution >> >> >> >> Robert, >> >> I have no problem with your post(s). I find it disturbing that >> you still haven't received documentation on the Witango JavaBean >> Interface. For clarification though, was your request completely >> ignored? Or were you at least told something about why they can't >> or won't give you what you're looking for. >> >> If anybody out there has something they'd like to share positive >> or NEGATIVE. Please share it. Last time I checked, this was an >> open forum about Witango. Information about how Witango is >> outperformed 3X by PHP is absolutely relevant information and >> should be addressed. >> >> /John >> >> DB1 CB14 wrote: >> >> Robert, >> I am not sure why you keep posting these types of email. I have >> read your posts about moving to PHP and MySQL and how you don't >> like Witango anymore but many of us do not want to learn PHP and >> really like the way Witango ties everything together for us. >> >> It is your choice to move to another platform and it is my choice >> to stay with Witango. If you no longer wish to use Witango that >> is fine but please move on quietly and stop beating up on the >> product. When Scott Cadillac moved to .Net he did it quietly and >> professionally and he seems to still be on the list and drops us >> some words of wisdom from time to time. You seem to be want to >> punish Witango Inc for some reason. >> >> If you are really concerned about putting the code into open >> source just create a project on sourceforge like Jason did with >> his crontab taf. >> >> Just my 2 cents worth. >> >> >> Rds >> >> Dave Breaker >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone >> call rates. >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> ___TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/ >> maillist.taf >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> ___ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/ >> maillist.taf > > Bill > > William M. 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