The macbooks, can act as dual head, the built in as one, and external as another. I used to have a G5, 2.5 Ghz Dual processor, with 6 gigs of ram, I sold it, and now on a macbook pro 17", and it is much faster. I used to have 2 apple 20" cinemas on the G5, but I use the 17" built in now, and one cinema, and replaced my wifes Dual 1ghz G4 with a 15" macbook pro, and gave her the other cinema.

Its not just that these intel machines are so much faster, the parallels virtualization is incredible, but even with less memory, it does "slow down" as much. The G5, would start to bog, and I would have to quit safari, or another app, and restart some apps, and it would get better. On the macbook pro, it doesn't happen, I can keep mail and safari open at all times, and the processors are almost always barely being used. I got in the habit of keeping my processor monitors open, so on the G5, I could see when they were working to hard, and had to quit mail and safari, and maybe something else, to find what was doing it. This never happens for me on the macbook pros, and I only have 2 gigs of ram, and I work the same. Java runs better for this also, for the same reason.

Anyway, as a multiplatform developer, these things are the bomb. OS X has always been a good multiplatform dev tool, with unix tools a plenty, and ssh and X11 for remoting in to linux servers, and RDC to remote into windows servers....

But now, add parallels, and a VM running xp, or 2003 at 90-95% the speed it would if it was booted as that os, and it just kicks.

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On May 27, 2006, at 11:48 AM, William M Conlon wrote:

If only it offered dual head support.

On May 27, 2006, at 11:32 AM, Ben Johansen wrote:

Hi,

There is a couple sites where hack have been down to run OSX on Wintel machines, but i think they are being shot down by Apple. (Understandably so).

I can say that the Mac Mini is worth its weight. 1 gig Ether, Port, Built in Airport Wireless and Bluetooth this thing sets up very easily into any environment.
I am using Microsoft USB keyboard and Mouse.

I tell you this Apple on Intel is turning heads.
I love working under windows XP while talking to Robert over Bluetooth head set on Skype

XP on the Mac states this for computer

Genuine Intel(R) CPU
T2300 @ 1.66Ghz
851 Mhz, 600 MB or RAM

Ben

On May 27, 2006, at 3:58 AM, Dan Stein wrote:

I may be mistaken but you need a mac hardware ot do any of this. I don't think you can get anything that will allow OSX to run on a Wintel machine but I could be wrong.

As I have said before anyone on the list that want a Mac should contact me I am an apple var and would be happy ot sell at cost to the group. The best bet for waht Scott is doing is to get a Mac Mini and jsut share monitor and keyoboard and mouse with you PC. The mini is about the size of an external hard drive and will run you about $600 with extra RAM but no Apple Care. A little more with the apple Care.

----  <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi, late to this thread

I'm using a utility from parallels.com and I am running it on mac
mini duo-core.
from what ive seen and experienced for $40 buck is amazing

I am very happy with it

Ben


On May 26, 2006, at 7:17 AM, Jason Pamental wrote:

Daniel,

I know! (I'm waiting to be able to do Windows in a virtual machine
mode rather than with BootCamp so I can be working in both Mac OS and
Windows without having to reboot. I just want to do it on nice Mac
hardware!)

Thanks - and you're right about 10.4 - I was assuming Scott meant he
was buying online and that's all he'd be able to buy from Apple now
anyway.

Jason

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On May 26, 2006, at 10:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jason - he can run Windows in native Intel mode. VM's are not
longer needed :-)

Mac OS X: Only buy OS X 10.4. All older versions don't work with
the Intel Mac's (as I know).

rs

Daniel

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Scott,

There's only one version of the OS, so you're safe to buy the one
you  see online. I didn't realize you could get it running that
way - let  me know how it goes! (Although I'm waiting to go the
other way - get  a new MacBook Pro and run Windows as a virtual
machine)

Jason

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North Sails

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On May 26, 2006, at 9:27 AM, Scott Cadillac wrote:

For those of you in the know,

I am considering an attempt to install Mac OS X as a VMWare
virtual machine, as a test environment for my apps with Safari
and other Mac-based browsers. There are several unofficial
instructions on  how to do this, with a bit of searching.

My question is: Does the latest version of OS X automatically
support Intel, or do I need a special version?

http://www.apple.com/macosx/

When I click on the link to buy, the hardware requirements
simply  says "PowerPC G5, G4 or G3 processor".

Any insight would be helpful, thanks.

Scott Cadillac,
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://scott.cadillac.bz


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