FYI, in my experience, and we do a lot of software/web stuff, and have to balance that exact question....

We have found making the install process as easy and seemless is the key. So we use inno setup on windows, FULLY automated and free, and firestorm on the mac. On windows, you give instructions, to click the link, and hit run, and it just installs, and the installer launches the app. The app then can check if it is set to start up on login, and do its thing.

For the mac, we use firestorm, very cheap, to create a dmg, that when you download on the mac, opens a license agreement, or instructions, automatically, and then mounts automaticallly, with a graphic window, that shows the app, and says "drag this app over to applications", with an alias to the applications folder right in the window. If you download and install skype for mac, it is EXACTLY like that. It doesn't get any easier.

Food for thought.

Here are a couple screenshots of how mac and windows installers look, very pro for very cheap (as far as licenses go).

http://public.bighead.net/installer/

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On Oct 28, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Dan Stein wrote:

Actually Robert I think you hit the nail on the head with the request so thank you. That is exactly what they are asking for. My feedback to them is going to be to consider if people will download an application like this from a new branded site. My thought is not. So doing a Widget on Mac makes
sense since people are more comfortable with those.

This request is in a long list for this proposal. The project has a 12-18 mo time span and 3 Phases. I just need to gather enough info to make the best proposal to them for the overall project so all this information from you
and others is might fine. I appreciate the feedback and suggestions as
always.

Dan
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From: Robert Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 10:53:02 -0700
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: RSS Feeds

NP, his question, said they want to do something like southwest's
DING. DING is a mac/windows application, like the one I described.
That is why I mentioned, based on his request. And he asked
specifically how an app like that was written, unless I am reading it
wrong. You guys seemed to be putting him on the write track for a web
reader, so I answered the question RE: Ding.

Also they would really like to do something like southwest's Ding!
Not sure
it is in their budget but if anyone has an idea how that is written
it would
be good info to have.


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13653 West Park Dr
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On Oct 28, 2006, at 10:46 AM, Scott Cadillac wrote:

Sounds cool Robert,

But I think Dan's requirements are just for building an RSS feed
for the customer's website. Not a client (reader) as well. These
are two different things.

It's one thing to build an RSS output feed for a website, where
that website's data is unique to itself, but once that unique data
conforms to one of the popular RSS standards, i.e., RSS 2.0, then I
think it's pointless to try and upsell the client on needing a
special Mac/Window workstation app to read the RSS data when there
are hundreds (maybe thousands now) of finished products that do
this already (free and paid, including desktop or web-based
solutions).

But of course, if this data is doing something other than what
typical RSS provides - then don't use RSS XML, and either implement
SOAP or a custom XML vocabulary, and your special desktop solution.

My observation, eh.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sat, October 28, 2006 11:21 am
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: RSS Feeds

I am not sure where your programming experience is, but it is
"fairly" easy to build an application, in RealBasic, that in one app,
you can build a frame work, so that it is a dock application like
DING, and a system tray application in windows.

RB can handle any level of RSS and xml you can throw at it, and you
can create a great custom interface.

I just built an app, that runs in the background, and compiles for
mac and windows, which polls my servers every 15 minutes and parses
xml to check for images to upload to the server when needed. It runs
as a BG dock app on mac, and windows system tray, and also checks to
see if it is set to launch on user login.

Anyway, this will give you the ability to do a DING like app, that is
consistent and native as universal binary on mac, and win32 app on
windows.

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President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
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On Oct 28, 2006, at 7:32 AM, Dan Stein wrote:

Yes it looks like it could be done as a Dashboard widget on Mac
side and
that would be accepted by Mac Users. What is there on the windows
side that
mot users would accept?
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From: Roland Dumas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:46:35 -0700
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: RSS Feeds

just looked at it, it's done in xerces: http://en.wikipedia.org/
wiki/
Xerces
one might also look at how the macos widgets are done

On Oct 27, 2006, at 3:55 PM, Dan Stein wrote:

I have to do a quote for a new client that has in it the need for
RSS feeds..
Anywhere I can get a quick primer on this.

Also they would really like to do something like southwest's Ding!
Not sure
it is in their budget but if anyone has an idea how that is written
it would
be good info to have.
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FileMaker 7 Certified Developer
Digital Software Solutions
799 Evergreen Circle
Telford PA 18969
Land: 215-799-0192
Cell: 610-256-2843
Fax 413-410-9682
FMP, WiTango, EDI,SQL 2000, MySQL, CWP
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