The compiled code needs a set of Java libraries to implement the functionality 
provided by the 
Witango server.  Yes, you must purchase a license to use those libraries.
--
Bill


---------- Original Message -----------
From: "Shane Pearlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, 15 May 2007 15:48:11 -0700
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Compiling for J2EE

> So looking into this deeper, I noticed on the Witango site that 
> there is the following:
> 
> Witango for J2EE v5.5           Standard Edition        AU$ 6499 US$ 
> 4875 EURO 4030
> 
> Witango for J2EE v5.5           Application Edition    AU$ 3998 US$ 2999
> EURO 2479
> 
> I wonder if I made a stupid assumption. I was under the impression 
> that if I compiled from the Witango studio into J2EE compiled code 
> that tomcat could just run it. Does it actually need the Witango 
> pluggin and is that what costs 3-5k? Is there anything else I am 
> missing?
> 
> What I was hoping to do is use this in conjunction with flex. The advantage
> of flex for a front end is that it is completely browser and platform
> independent. Using java to provide back end database services truly appealed
> to me - especially if we could capitalize on the rapid development 
> time that Witango provides us. Most systems are java enabled and 
> that would allow us a certain freedom from the Witango server for 
> our self hosted clients.
> 
> Shane Pearlman
> 
> 831.345.7033
> 
> S <http://www.shaneandpeter.com> &P, Inc.
> 
>   _____
> 
> From: Dale Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:01 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Compiling for J2EE
> 
> Yes, we use TCFs a lot and also custom tags. Works perfectly. (Once 
> the code is "Java clean", of course!)
> 
> On May 15, 2007, at 1:04 PM, Shane Pearlman wrote:
> 
> Nice. This is great.
> 
> Are you using TCF objects at all? How are they working out?
> 
> -S
> 
> Shane Pearlman
> 
> 831.345.7033
> 
>  <http://www.shaneandpeter.com> S&P, Inc.
> 
>   _____
> 
> From: Dale Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 6:28 PM
> To:  <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Compiling for J2EE
> 
> We've used JBoss (SLOW compared to Tomcat - too much overhead that 
> we just did not need), are now using Tomcat (works just fine), and 
> are experimenting with Resin (FAST!)
> 
> JDBC to Oracle.
> 
> On May 14, 2007, at 9:09 PM, Shane Pearlman wrote:
> 
> Thanks Dale,
> 
> Which J2EE server are you using? JBoss, Geronimo, TomCat (doesn't 
> appear to be a full j2ee server - can it be used) . ?
> 
> Are you using ODBC or JDBC for database connectivity?
> 
> -S
> 
> Shane Pearlman
> 
> 831.345.7033
> 
>  <http://www.shaneandpeter.com> S&P, Inc.
> 
>   _____
> 
> From: Dale Graham [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 5:41 PM
> To:  <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Compiling for J2EE
> 
> We're running an enterprise-wide application for data collection and 
> a public access website about this data for a US Federal organization.
> 
> Main glitches: quirks of various J2EE server; variables are *not* retained
> if you have to restart the server (unlike the WitangoServer, which 
> does save user sessions); J2EE needs to be restarted for changes to 
> take effect.
> 
> If your code will run on the 5.5 WitangoServer, then it's close to being
> ready to compile. We develop, test on WitangoServer before ever 
> moving to compilation. The syntax checker helps, but you will have occasional
> instances where the compiler fails anyway (due to bad coding). You 
> have to really go crazy on quoting if you want reliable apps. E.g.,
>  <@ifequal this that> is not good. To make array filters work, you 
> pretty much have to do this <@assign name="request$this" 
> value="<@filter array='request$thatarray' expr='#2 = "whatever" '>"> 
> or it's very likely to fail. You cannot go wrong, quoting everything 
> (properly nested, of course).
> 
> If you use lots of include files you can change these on the fly without
> having to restart the J2EE server. (Advantage!)
> 
> If you use lots of include files you increase your chances of 
> putting in code that will cause errors on the J2EE server, and these 
> of course are not checked by either the syntax checker or compiler 
> (Disadvantage!)
> 
> It's a learning process, getting from older code to J2EE-successful 
> code, but we have found that (with debugged code) it is a remarkably 
> robust, well-performing solution. Initially it was a bit painful,
>  but now we do it so routinely, it's hard to recall lots of our 
> "learning curve" issues.
> 
> Haven't experimented with v6 yet.
> 
> On May 14, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Shane Pearlman wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> We have been poking at the compile to J2EE option under projects in 
> the 5.5 studio.
> 
> Has anyone deployed a solution using this? What was your experience? 
> Tips, thoughts, bugs, quirks & issues we should know about?
> 
> Has this changed much with 6.0 beta?
> 
> Shane Pearlman
> 
> 831.345.7033
> 
>  <http://www.shaneandpeter.com> S&P, Inc.
> 
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