Robert,

Thanks for the heads up on Ben.  Although I've never met Ben in person, Ben
has always been a help to me with Tango and Witango over the years.

I've sent him a brief note.  Hope all is well with him.

Tom Ferguson 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 08:41
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Witango-Talk: New project and Sick Member
> 
> 1st, Ben Johanson has been working for me for a couple of 
> years now, and he has worked with me hard on one particular 
> project. Not related, but he is having some serious digestive 
> issues and isn't doing well, in the ER at the moment, so if 
> you know him, you may want to wish him well. I am sure he 
> would appreciate it.
> 
> BigHead's last major witango site, and by far biggest work in 
> terms of scope and use is peachdirect.com.
> 
> http://www.peachdirect.com/
> 
> This system was not only a very sophisticated ecommerce site, 
> basically a mini bestbuy type site, but also we wrote the 
> entire backend, including all vendor fullfillment, vendor 
> communication, and since this is a private credit card site, 
> we wrote all of the communication modules custom for 
> communicating to the bank. Its a very large system.
> 
> The site was written in witango, and then uses other 
> languages, mainly realbasic to deal with the bank com and the 
> vendor system and such.  
> The peachdirect site is almost dormant now, but at its peak 
> was doing over $20 million per month in orders. At its peak, 
> witango could barely take it, we had lots of workarounds, and 
> even wrote our own page caching system in witango to help 
> with the load. Originally, several years ago, the witango 
> site was only supposed to be up for a few months, until they 
> went to a bigger system.
> 
> Well, the company has completely changed their name and 
> launched a new site/system and are planning the $20 
> million/month level in just a couple of months. This time, we 
> wrote the ENTIRE system in PHP and it is running on the Zend 
> Platform. We have already ported large sites over from 
> witango to php, but this was a monster. The interesting part 
> is that every line of code is written in PHP. There is no 
> perl, realbasic, java, nothing. Not only that, we are using 
> standard PHP
> 5.1.6 from CentOS 5.2 distribution, with yum installable 
> modules, like php-gd, php-xml, php-soap, etc. No pear, no 
> roll your own stuff at all. We have used a couple of classes 
> to generate excel files, and things like that, other than 
> that, its all standard php, with the addition of some 
> features like partial page caching from the Zend Platform.
> 
> In this huge project, I don't think we have run into ONE php 
> bug. I can't think of a time we had to rewrite code, or 
> create an external object to make up for a php bug or 
> deficiency. Even all of the realbasic code that handled the 
> bank and vendor communication is written in PHP, some scripts 
> being run from command line via cron and such.
> 
> Anyway, I am not trying to sell php, I have no gain there, 
> but as a developer I am amazed. To make the statement that we 
> have not had one workaround, is amazing. XML just works, soap 
> just works. The soap client is amazing, just give it a wsdl 
> and call your method, like 3 lines of code. Many have 
> contacted me if possible to port big projects over, yes it is.
> 
> Anyway, just thought I would share, don't forget to shoot ben 
> a line if you know him.
> 
> Link to new site:
> 
> http://www.venue.com/
> 
> -- 
> 
> Robert Garcia
> President - BigHead Technology
> VP Application Development - eventpix.com
> 13653 West Park Dr
> Magalia, Ca 95954
> ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ 
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