First of all, my thoughts go out to Ben for a quick heal and speedy
recovery. I also have digestive issues and I'll tell you that the best thing
out there is Manuka Honey! It puts the digestive enzymes back in your
stomach, and of course it's natural. Actually, it's honey from New Zealand
and unpasteurized.

That's quite a project there Robert! I can understand why WiTango couldn't
handle it unfortunately. I'm also working on a big project for gambling
problems, and Cold Fusion works amazingly! It's fast, reliable, has so many
features that are incredible. It's also easy to learn when you've been
programming in WiTango.

On your new site http://www.venue.com/ I clicked on the computers button
without a sub category and it did nothing. Made my browser think for awhile
but that's it. Just an FYI.

Rick Sanders
Webenergy
Canada: 902-431-7279
USA:       919-799-9076
Canada: www.webenergy.ca
USA:       www.webenergyusa.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: August-22-08 10:41 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Witango-Talk: New project and Sick Member

1st, Ben Johanson has been working for me for a couple of years now,  
and he has worked with me hard on one particular project. Not related,  
but he is having some serious digestive issues and isn't doing well,  
in the ER at the moment, so if you know him, you may want to wish him  
well. I am sure he would appreciate it.

BigHead's last major witango site, and by far biggest work in terms of  
scope and use is peachdirect.com.

http://www.peachdirect.com/

This system was not only a very sophisticated ecommerce site,  
basically a mini bestbuy type site, but also we wrote the entire  
backend, including all vendor fullfillment, vendor communication, and  
since this is a private credit card site, we wrote all of the  
communication modules custom for communicating to the bank. Its a very  
large system.

The site was written in witango, and then uses other languages, mainly  
realbasic to deal with the bank com and the vendor system and such.  
The peachdirect site is almost dormant now, but at its peak was doing  
over $20 million per month in orders. At its peak, witango could  
barely take it, we had lots of workarounds, and even wrote our own  
page caching system in witango to help with the load. Originally,  
several years ago, the witango site was only supposed to be up for a  
few months, until they went to a bigger system.

Well, the company has completely changed their name and launched a new  
site/system and are planning the $20 million/month level in just a  
couple of months. This time, we wrote the ENTIRE system in PHP and it  
is running on the Zend Platform. We have already ported large sites  
over from witango to php, but this was a monster. The interesting part  
is that every line of code is written in PHP. There is no perl,  
realbasic, java, nothing. Not only that, we are using standard PHP  
5.1.6 from CentOS 5.2 distribution, with yum installable modules, like  
php-gd, php-xml, php-soap, etc. No pear, no roll your own stuff at  
all. We have used a couple of classes to generate excel files, and  
things like that, other than that, its all standard php, with the  
addition of some features like partial page caching from the Zend  
Platform.

In this huge project, I don't think we have run into ONE php bug. I  
can't think of a time we had to rewrite code, or create an external  
object to make up for a php bug or deficiency. Even all of the  
realbasic code that handled the bank and vendor communication is  
written in PHP, some scripts being run from command line via cron and  
such.

Anyway, I am not trying to sell php, I have no gain there, but as a  
developer I am amazed. To make the statement that we have not had one  
workaround, is amazing. XML just works, soap just works. The soap  
client is amazing, just give it a wsdl and call your method, like 3  
lines of code. Many have contacted me if possible to port big projects  
over, yes it is.

Anyway, just thought I would share, don't forget to shoot ben a line  
if you know him.

Link to new site:

http://www.venue.com/

-- 

Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/
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