Maurice, The many Flemish I know in Belgium, they love to say they are Flemish and not Dutch, and they love to say that they speak Flemish and not Dutch. But this is someway very human like... Myself I have n citizenships. If somebody blames X I like to say I am Y. If they say X is the best, then I like to be X :).. I think this is the same with Flemish :). They like to blame the Dutch, but if there is something good about Dutch, they like to be Dutch :)
By the way... your name is not very Flemish would say a Wallonian :) Now about Flemish speaking more correctly Dutch than Dutch, or being fluent in Dutch, that is a topic for an infinite debate. Speaking a language means speaking it without accent, or better said speaking with the same intonations, sound patterns etc. etc. (Graggggggggggg ... you know that appetizing sound nice sound Dutch make). I think anybody with the even worst musical ears and without having previously heard the two languages, they would realize that there is some difference between the two. If you mean writing it, indeed that makes less difference, as the letters and words are the same, not as the sounds :). Besides that I heard not only one dutch complaining that they would not understand at all certain Flemish dialects from Belgium. I wonder that these arrogant guys from the Dutch company would prefer to hire a Flemish that speaks heavy dialect, or a non-Dutch or non-Flemish who does not speak natively Dutch, but learned and speaks dutch quite well among some other few European languages. So as I really hope that this list contains today more than 500 people, 1 Dutch, 1 Flemish wit Wallonian name, and 2 emweb guys is still less than 1% :) So guys... lets be ueber alles Europeans, and let's do not hang on stupid arguments like language etc. etc. I think there was something behind putting webtoolkit.eu under .eu and not under .be or .flemish or .dutch. I CC-d the email to the list, as I find it ridiculous as a company jumps here to make add for there job opening (which is not bad at the end), but treats people in a ridiculously arrogant way. mobi phil > On Dutch TV there is this program called "Tien voor Taal" where > where the Dutch and the Flemish (Belgians) compete on who > best speaks the Dutch language. > > Unscientific statistics I gathered by watching this program suggest that > the Belgians actually speak Dutch much more correctly than the Dutch do. :-) > > Since Emweb is a Belgian company I would not be surprised to find > them quite fluent in Dutch. Especially when they have Dutch names like > "Wim" and "Koen". > > So, you might need to adjust that 1% somewhat. :-) > >> anyway, I think everybody agrees the languages of the list should >> probably stay English :) >> >> > > Absolutely. > > Cheers, > Maurice > > PS: Color me Dutch > >> mobi phil >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Wouter Dingemanse <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > I am Dutch! >> > >> > Maar ik ben nog niet goed in C++. Ben nu een c# ontwikkelaar. We maken >> > wel >> > hele mooie Webapplicaties bij mijn huidige werkgever, vooral gericht op >> > bedrijfsprocessen. Mail maar als er interresse is. >> > >> > gr, >> > Wouter >> > >> > 2010/2/26 mobi phil <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> Hello Frank, >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, I will not try to prove my Dutch knowledge, as you "a priori" >> >> assumed that my Dutch is as bad as your Slovak :). What percentage of >> >> the people on this list do you think speak better than me Dutch? I >> >> answered your email in English as you addressed your email in English >> >> to the group. >> >> >> >> I wish you good luck in finding somebody with that specialized >> >> knowledge and "with (nearly)native Dutch capabilities", and maybe one >> >> day you will realize that one of the reasons why European economy is >> >> going to hell is that everybody is fanatic with its native language. >> >> >> >> >> >> mobi phil >> >> >> >> P.S. >> >> As most of the users on the witty list are probably non-Dutch >> >> speakers, I could not resist not to CC the witty-interest list. Sorry >> >> if somebody would feel offended. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:45 PM, info <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Hi Mobi, >> >> > >> >> > Thanks for the offer. We preferably would have someone with (nearly) >> >> > native Dutch capabilities, but if we need extra help we'll keep you >> >> > in mind, >> >> > >> >> > Regards, >> >> > >> >> > Frank Tiekink >> >> > >> >> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> >> > Van: mobi phil [mailto:[email protected]] >> >> > Verzonden: donderdag 25 februari 2010 13:20 >> >> > Aan: Frank Tiekink (IDE) >> >> > CC: [email protected] >> >> > Onderwerp: Re: [Wt-interest] Job Offering Wt Developer >> >> > >> >> > my prev. email was intended only for Frank Tiekink... >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > hELlO, >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > I am very busy at the moment, but would be happy to work on your >> >> > project. Before going too deep into the details, could you please >> >> > tell >> >> > me if you are looking for somebody who has to work full time in NL, >> >> > or >> >> > you could imagine a collaboration where only some meetings in NL >> >> > would >> >> > be necessary. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > regards >> >> > mobi phil >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Frank Tiekink (IDE) >> >> > <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> Hello Wt'ers, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Our company is searching for a Wt Developer (or a C++ developer with >> >> >> Qt >> >> >> Background) for our development team. His/her major goal is to help >> >> >> convert >> >> >> our current application system to a Wt based web application. We are >> >> >> situated in Central Netherlands, and we are specialized in software >> >> >> for >> >> >> Maintenance Management, Field Service and Facility Management, for >> >> >> more >> >> >> have >> >> >> a look at our product web site www.mcmain.nl >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Knowledge & Experience with SQL (MS-SQL, Oracle, MySQL), XML and Web >> >> >> development are relevant. Speaking and reading of the English & >> >> >> Dutch >> >> >> language is necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Individuals can respond directly to [email protected]. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Frank Tiekink >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> >> >> Try the new software tools for yourself. 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