Hey Koen,
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Koen Deforche <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> It would never have expected that a thread on the wt-interest mailing
> list can turn into a (natural) language discussion bordering Belgian
> politics (having "Walloon" and "Flemish" in one sentence equals debate
> in our little kingdom !).
>
> Please leave these discussions for a random politics Internet forum !
>
>
Did you miss the smileys?
Cheers,
Maurice
> (and to the topic: I do not think anyone wanted to offend anyone so do
> not feel offended)
>
> Regards,
> koen
>
> 2010/2/26 mobi phil <[email protected]>:
> > Maurice,
> >
> > The many Flemish I know in Belgium, they love to say they are Flemish
> > and not Dutch, and they love to say that they speak Flemish and not
> > Dutch. But this is someway very human like... Myself I have n
> > citizenships. If somebody blames X I like to say I am Y. If they say X
> > is the best, then I like to be X :).. I think this is the same with
> > Flemish :). They like to blame the Dutch, but if there is something
> > good about Dutch, they like to be Dutch :)
> >
> > By the way... your name is not very Flemish would say a Wallonian :)
> >
> > Now about Flemish speaking more correctly Dutch than Dutch, or being
> > fluent in Dutch, that is a topic for an infinite debate. Speaking a
> > language means speaking it without accent, or better said speaking
> > with the same intonations, sound patterns etc. etc. (Graggggggggggg
> > ... you know that appetizing sound nice sound Dutch make). I think
> > anybody with the even worst musical ears and without having previously
> > heard the two languages, they would realize that there is some
> > difference between the two. If you mean writing it, indeed that makes
> > less difference, as the letters and words are the same, not as the
> > sounds :). Besides that I heard not only one dutch complaining that
> > they would not understand at all certain Flemish dialects from
> > Belgium. I wonder that these arrogant guys from the Dutch company
> > would prefer to hire a Flemish that speaks heavy dialect, or a
> > non-Dutch or non-Flemish who does not speak natively Dutch, but
> > learned and speaks dutch quite well among some other few European
> > languages.
> >
> > So as I really hope that this list contains today more than 500
> > people, 1 Dutch, 1 Flemish wit Wallonian name, and 2 emweb guys is
> > still less than 1% :)
> >
> > So guys... lets be ueber alles Europeans, and let's do not hang on
> > stupid arguments like language etc. etc. I think there was something
> > behind putting webtoolkit.eu under .eu and not under .be or .flemish
> > or .dutch.
> >
> > I CC-d the email to the list, as I find it ridiculous as a company
> > jumps here to make add for there job opening (which is not bad at the
> > end), but treats people in a ridiculously arrogant way.
> >
> > mobi phil
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Dutch TV there is this program called "Tien voor Taal" where
> >> where the Dutch and the Flemish (Belgians) compete on who
> >> best speaks the Dutch language.
> >>
> >> Unscientific statistics I gathered by watching this program suggest that
> >> the Belgians actually speak Dutch much more correctly than the Dutch do.
> :-)
> >>
> >> Since Emweb is a Belgian company I would not be surprised to find
> >> them quite fluent in Dutch. Especially when they have Dutch names like
> >> "Wim" and "Koen".
> >>
> >> So, you might need to adjust that 1% somewhat. :-)
> >>
> >>> anyway, I think everybody agrees the languages of the list should
> >>> probably stay English :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Absolutely.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Maurice
> >>
> >> PS: Color me Dutch
> >>
> >>> mobi phil
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Wouter Dingemanse <
> [email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > I am Dutch!
> >>> >
> >>> > Maar ik ben nog niet goed in C++. Ben nu een c# ontwikkelaar. We
> maken
> >>> > wel
> >>> > hele mooie Webapplicaties bij mijn huidige werkgever, vooral gericht
> op
> >>> > bedrijfsprocessen. Mail maar als er interresse is.
> >>> >
> >>> > gr,
> >>> > Wouter
> >>> >
> >>> > 2010/2/26 mobi phil <[email protected]>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Hello Frank,
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Well, I will not try to prove my Dutch knowledge, as you "a priori"
> >>> >> assumed that my Dutch is as bad as your Slovak :). What percentage
> of
> >>> >> the people on this list do you think speak better than me Dutch? I
> >>> >> answered your email in English as you addressed your email in
> English
> >>> >> to the group.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I wish you good luck in finding somebody with that specialized
> >>> >> knowledge and "with (nearly)native Dutch capabilities", and maybe
> one
> >>> >> day you will realize that one of the reasons why European economy is
> >>> >> going to hell is that everybody is fanatic with its native language.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> mobi phil
> >>> >>
> >>> >> P.S.
> >>> >> As most of the users on the witty list are probably non-Dutch
> >>> >> speakers, I could not resist not to CC the witty-interest list.
> Sorry
> >>> >> if somebody would feel offended.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:45 PM, info <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> > Hi Mobi,
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Thanks for the offer. We preferably would have someone with
> (nearly)
> >>> >> > native Dutch capabilities, but if we need extra help we'll keep
> you
> >>> >> > in mind,
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Regards,
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Frank Tiekink
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >>> >> > Van: mobi phil [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>> >> > Verzonden: donderdag 25 februari 2010 13:20
> >>> >> > Aan: Frank Tiekink (IDE)
> >>> >> > CC: [email protected]
> >>> >> > Onderwerp: Re: [Wt-interest] Job Offering Wt Developer
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > my prev. email was intended only for Frank Tiekink...
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > hELlO,
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > I am very busy at the moment, but would be happy to work on your
> >>> >> > project. Before going too deep into the details, could you please
> >>> >> > tell
> >>> >> > me if you are looking for somebody who has to work full time in
> NL,
> >>> >> > or
> >>> >> > you could imagine a collaboration where only some meetings in NL
> >>> >> > would
> >>> >> > be necessary.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > regards
> >>> >> > mobi phil
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Frank Tiekink (IDE)
> >>> >> > <[email protected]>
> >>> >> > wrote:
> >>> >> >> Hello Wt'ers,
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Our company is searching for a Wt Developer (or a C++ developer
> with
> >>> >> >> Qt
> >>> >> >> Background) for our development team. His/her major goal is to
> help
> >>> >> >> convert
> >>> >> >> our current application system to a Wt based web application. We
> are
> >>> >> >> situated in Central Netherlands, and we are specialized in
> software
> >>> >> >> for
> >>> >> >> Maintenance Management, Field Service and Facility Management,
> for
> >>> >> >> more
> >>> >> >> have
> >>> >> >> a look at our product web site www.mcmain.nl
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Knowledge & Experience with SQL (MS-SQL, Oracle, MySQL), XML and
> Web
> >>> >> >> development are relevant. Speaking and reading of the English &
> >>> >> >> Dutch
> >>> >> >> language is necessary.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Individuals can respond directly to [email protected].
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Regards,
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Frank Tiekink
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
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> >>> >> > mobi phil
> >>> >> >
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> >>>
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> > mobi phil
> >
> > being mobile, but including technology
> > http://mobiphil.com
> >
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