As a Developer for any language, I find that personal contact always opens
up doors, whereas a closed community never grows, and the its users start
to grow intolerant of each other, you may like to call them Trolls, but the
fact is that they are just People who are feed up with asking questions and
getting no answers, but most do not see it that way, so they ignore them,
they have better things to do then answer questions, so they promote a
Closed Community, whereas an Open Community promotes answers, and
encourages questions, it then can Open doors that did not exist when it was
Closed, you find people can be more helpful, and you find with more help,
you are not so busy and can take the time to answer more questions, so what
you have to ask yourself is what type of community do you want, then make
plans to make it happen.
As far as getting together, events are an Expense to all involved and most
can not make the time, but I still agree that they are important, but not
as important as just taking time to help each other out, because in the
long that is where an Open Community starts and stops, if you do not have
any involvement with the Community on a Daily basis, then why would you
want to get together with them?
I live in the USA, North Western region, in the Middle of nowhere, with no
major Cities with a Population over 50,000 for a least 50 miles, this huge
Mountains to get to the next City, so its unlikely I'll have find many
living near me, so all I have is Email, and all it ever gets from this
Community is Ignored, so I doubt you will get a warm welcome here, maybe
you will get called a Troll if you bring this up, but besides that, it
would take a major attitude adjustment to change things here, I have
monitored this Community long enough to relive that, not putting it down, I
can always unsubscribe, I figure maybe I'm just not asking the right
question, or wording in a way that peaks someones curiosity, or maybe I'm
not in the Click, since I'm not on the Core team, and just a user at best,
so they feel its beneath them to answer such stupid questions, I don't
know, but it should be clear to you by now that people here are not willing
to commit to an answer, for what ever reason they have, so it will remain a
very Closed niche Community, until someone decides to change this, but that
is just My Opinion, and in this Community I am a nobody, who has been
looking for Friends in this Community also, so best luck with this Venture.
Your best bet is to start a Club, I know this sounds old fashion, but I'm
old, so I will suggest it, what you do is start a web site, allow users to
register there, have a Blog, Forum, and Events Calendar, I would write the
App in Wt, this way you put up a good front, using the Software you want to
meet to talk about, then you may find interest; but make the Events run by
Locals, but track them all, one place to register, then assign Event
Coordinators for each Area, which is normally a City, or sections of a
Large City, and then just Create the Event and see who signs up for it,
then you can just announce that news here, I would also use the Chat
Module, so you can do this Online, someone else already mentioned doing
this, otherwise you are in a mailing list that is attached to a forum, that
as far as I can tell is dead, based on my experience in getting simple
questions answered, I feel like I'm bothering them, so to them I'm just a
Troll for even bringing this up, so ignore my long winded speeches,
everyone else does... and by the Way, I am not a Troll, but do agree they
do like to Rant about things, but I think they do so out of desperation
more than just wanting to be Troll and somethings someone has to remind
them of this fact.
I started a site years ago for a CMS (http://beta.binarybitflesh.com/), I
wound not mind using it for this reason, but wound need moderators to
control it, I'm disabled, and its not the easies thing for me to take on
responsibility for a projects which requires a lot of attention, its in
Drupal, but I could load others like I did for the Blog or Forum,
eventually I want the CMS to run it all, but that is putting the horse
before the Cart, so far I can not get the software to even run on my Host
server, which is a Debian VM, but I have not given up, I just keep working
on it till I figure it out, not much else I can do without the help of an
Open Community, which is what I'm trying to start here and to be fair to
the real Developers on this Mailing list, its not their job to answer
everyones stupid question, which is why I never push that point and still
stay active on the list, they do have other things to do, so this Community
needs a good third party to step in and take this load and traffic of this
type, so that users that want an Open Community support can get it, those
on this list can monitor it if they like, but it cuts down on all this type
of discussion and puts it where it belongs, but I don't speak for this
Community, but I do want to help, and only answer those questions being
ignored by the Community, so I don't step on anyones foot, if you know what
I mean, not that I have avoided that, in fact I think I escalated the last
incidence, so even I started to re-frame from answering questions, which is
how it got this way to begin with.
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Dubya Do <dubya...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 18:42:38 +0100
> > From: Wim Dumon <w...@emweb.be>
> >
> > Looks like our UK developers are hiding, because I know they're out
> there :)
> >
> > If you manage to find them and organize such an event, please let us know
> > and we'll support you in one way or another - announcements, speakers,
> > sponsoring, goodies, ...
> >
>
> Thank you Wim for the support!
>
> So, no one yet ready for networking, hackathons, learning and sharing
> experience/knowledge related to Wt? Or lets just meet over a beer :)
>
> The reason I am trying to get everyone communicating/networking both
> online and offline is because it will help spread the word about Wt,
> and hence increase the community around this wonderful toolkit. It
> will also help us learn better. Look at how local developer
> communities gather together to discuss MongoDB, Node.js, Django etc.
> So why not we Wt developers meet and organise presentations about
> projects developed using Wt, problems faced during the project and
> what were the solutions (if any) for those problems, arrange
> hackathons using Wt etc. It will be fun to organise this once every
> month/fortnight if not ever week. Lets start by listing where everyone
> is located and then we can decide the convenient location for the meet
> and other details. I am from Swindon, Wiltshire, UK. So, anyone else
> from UK? :)
>
> BTW, this is not just for UK. I would recommend that everyone start
> their own local meet-ups in their country or residence and arrange
> networking and hackathon events. That would help Wt prosper even
> further.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> -D
>
>
>
> > BR,
> > Wim.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/2/25 Dubya Do <dubya...@gmail.com>
> >
> >> > Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 03:37:17 +0000
> >> > From: Dubya Do <dubya...@gmail.com>
> >> >
> >> > How many Wt developers are there from UK on this forum? How about a
> >> > meet-up in UK of all Wt developers?
> >> >
> >>
> >> No one from UK on this forum? Am I the only one from UK who is using
> >> Wt, or are people hesitant to reply to my query? ;)
> >>
> >>
> >> > -D
> >> >
>
>
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