It is, and it’s even in existence within the MS packages.  I found 
Blend_Core.msi from the VS 11 Ultimate Beta to have a cert but not have 
validation.  (Yes, I was digging in crazy locations to see what I was doing 
wrong.)


From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 12:10 PM
To: Windows Installer XML toolset developer mailing list
Subject: Re: [WiX-devs] SFBUG: 3341/3340

Ahh, that's an interesting (separate) bug if true.

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Georg von Kries 
<g...@creativbox.net<mailto:g...@creativbox.net>> wrote:
I have seen that MsiDatabaseImport does not add entries in the _Validation 
table if the imported table does not exist before. Are those entries required 
anyways? It triggers an ICE03 error “Missing data in _Validation table or old 
Database”, but I have no idea if this is actually something to fix.

Kind regards,
Georg

Von: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com<mailto:r...@robmensching.com>]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2013 16:38

An: Windows Installer XML toolset developer mailing list
Betreff: Re: [WiX-devs] SFBUG: 3341/3340

Re: ::MsiDatabaseImport()

It is a bit of a pain to debug when there are failures however:

1. MsiDatabaseImport is a couple orders of magnitude faster to create the MSI 
over using the SQL queries.

2. MsiDatabaseImport creates the smallest MSI files. The SQL insert/update 
queries can add "hot air" to an MSI so we want to minimize their use to what is 
absolutely necessary.

On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Hoover, Jacob 
<jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com<mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com>> wrote:
When looking at SFBUG 3340 and 3341,  I attempted to prefix the identifier.  
Any time I use anything other than the hash it fails to import.  I’ve tried 
multiple variations (_, cer, Z, etc) of a prefix.  Each time I have verified 
that the certificate name in the IDT matches that of the file on disk in the 
MsiDigitalCertificate sub folder.  I’ve tried it with only changing the 
identifier and with changing both the identifier and the file name.

By chance is there something mis-documented on either the table definition or 
the MsiDatabaseImport function? (Is there a reason we are using this instead of 
using the DB functions directly?)

It may be worth mentioning that I can’t even adjust this value with Orca. It 
fails on commit with “The data was rejected by the database. It may be out of 
the valid range or formatted incorrectly”.  I can modify the identifier in the 
MsiDigitalSignature table, and I can modify another record in the 
MsiDigitalCertificate table. (I have a local fix that leaves the named key from 
the MsiPatchCertificate table in place.)  The only other unique thing I can 
think of is both certs are identical.

Thanks,
Jacob


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