Sorry, I think I may have missed some context. Is this just for your own
environment? I thought this was for the WiX project itself.
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Hoover, Jacob <jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com>
wrote:
> This is part of why Nancy looks so interesting. It isn't easy to mock
> the engine from a test when doing it from outside your BA. But with Nancy
> it seems you can do that without introducing a new dependency that takes
> high effort to deploy.
>
> With Nancy, I could see spinning up different listeners (or modifying the
> configuration of a single one) in C# per test for the various expected
> cases. With a little effort, one could extend the WixStdBA tests to also
> test external BA's (or at least expose the conditions WiX is testing for).
>
> My ultimate goal is to have a self updating bundle test that works with
> no more changes or effort on the developers behalf than what it takes today
> for a developer to check out WiX source and run the tests.
>
> On Jul 15, 2014, at 6:43 PM, "Bryan Wolf" <bryanw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I did want to touch on this because the C# ecosystem does have a lot of
> things that solve this problem.
>
> It seems like this is probably more a cause for dependency injection and
> something like NSubstitute, which allows you to mock out any interface
> really easily. The danger of using a real IIS system is you're using a real
> IIS system, which means you're coupled tightly to the behaviors and nuances
> that has. Plus you're testing more than is necessary to proof the concept -
> really, you just need something to come back with a canned response. If
> it's in C++ you could use Google Mock or Hippo Mock, but both are way more
> verbose than NSubstitute.
>
> They describe it really well here: http://nsubstitute.github.io/
>
> But the thought I was having is you could test pretty easily using
> Dependency Injection and having the class take an instance of, like,
> IHttpWebController or something. Let's say this interface looked like:
> interface IHttpWebRequest
> {
> ResponsePacket SendRequest(HttpRequestPacket packet);
> }
>
> NSubstitute can easily fake this interface similar to like:
> var sub = Substitute.For<IHttpWebController>()
> sub.SendRequest(Arg.Any<>()).Returns(new ResponsePacket { set properties
> here });
>
> Then you could simply change the Bundle class to accept an
> IHttpWebController and viola - you have a totally segregated connection to
> the web where your unit tests aren't trying to hit web addresses that may
> or may not work. I haven't looked in to how the Bundle is manipulating
> HTTP, but it does seem to be that we would want this is as decoupled as
> possible. E.g. there's no real reason that someone couldn't want to develop
> MSI For Mac or something and WiX would be the obvious central piece of that.
>
> Honestly, I've found that it's almost always easier to work through this
> approach of testing versus trying to spell it all out in detail once you
> get used to it. It also avoids connection issues and other weird behaviors
> like some computers randomly not being able to run unit tests, etc.
>
> Once you start getting in to DI, it becomes almost automatic that you
> are looking for some type of component service provider. That's when you
> get in to stuff like AutoFac, which can seriously make life way easier for
> the production side application and causes almost an irrelevant performance
> change: http://autofac.org/ My personal opinion is that unit tests should
> never take more than a couple of seconds - starting up IIS Express on my
> computer alone can take 5 or 6. Plus the tests allow you to test things
> that a unit test really can't get; e.g. 500 errors, 302/301/300, 405 black
> holes, etc. In theory those things should "Just work" but it's good to know
> that those error states are covered sometimes (especially 301/302, which
> web servers like to abuse the heck out of in my experience).
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Rob Mensching <r...@firegiant.com> wrote:
>
>> I use IIS Express. A bit of a pain to configure but comes with VS and
>> mimics IIS very well (since it is mostly IIS <smile/>).
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hoover, Jacob [mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:22 AM
>> To: WiX toolset developer mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-devs] Self Updating bundles and test cases
>>
>> One suggestion I got from a co-worker was Nancy,
>> http://www.nuget.org/packages/Nancy.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Phill Hogland [mailto:phogl...@rimage.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 1:14 PM
>> To: wix-devs@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-devs] Self Updating bundles and test cases
>>
>> source is available on GitHub
>> https://github.com/cesanta/mongoose
>>
>>
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