John Vottero wrote:
> Reposting this message at regular intervals (either manually or
> automatically) does no good whatsoever.  
That doesn't change the fact that it's a well-written message.

> If there are problems with the
> Installer based classes they should be reported to Microsoft so that the
> problems can be fixed.
>   
Easy fix: Make Installer sealed.<g>

Running arbitrary code during installation is bad. It's self-reg, except 
worse. The entire design of MSI is based on the idea of describing your 
setup and letting MSI interpret the description. Running code is bad and 
should be avoided whenever possible.
> If you read the documentation for the Installer classes, it never
> implies that they are merely developer hacks that shouldn't be used in a
> production environment.  In fact, Visual Studio provides the
> InstallUtilLib custom action to call Installer classes from an MSI.
>   
True. And it's an excellent example of why many folks suggest avoiding 
.vdproj.
> Don't all custom actions have the potential to break reference counting?
> Why use the reference counting argument against one custom action but
> not others?
>   
Yes they do -- and QuietExec is often abused. But there's a difference 
between running arbitrary code in a CA and running a well-designed CA 
whose operations are described via data in tables in the package.

Quite simply, it's hard to do good CAs. Even if you were to argue that 
there's too much coding overhead to do declarative setup, it's hard to 
argue against uninstall and rollback CAs. Yet often it's exactly that 
kind of resilience that people skip when writing one-off CAs. We see it 
all the time, even inside Microsoft. (That's why "but VS does it" isn't 
much of an excuse.)
> Installer classes have way too much momentum and too many supporters
> within Microsoft to be ignored, it's time for WiX and Windows Installer
> to figure out how to support them.
>   
Or lobby the supporters to come to their senses.

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