Same here, if it is something I can download from Microsoft (.NET, SQL etc.) I 
leave it external; if it is ours it is internal. This means the bundle is 300Mb 
and the external stuff is another 240Mb; typically an update will only require 
the main setup. The reason for using dark to extract the MSI's was to validate 
an install problem with one MSI.

Neil

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] 
Sent: 13 December 2012 05:50
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How do you extract the files from a bundle - answer

Random data point: the WiX toolset leaves the redists external and only our 
stuff internal (for the final builds where we use an attached container).


On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Neil Sleightholm <n...@x2systems.com>wrote:

> I know it is common - I have had to do it, I just hope some asks 
> before trying to repackage my 540Mb of install! We have actually 
> chosen two models of distribution, one that includes everything (.NET, 
> Windows Installer, SQL
> etc.) and the other just the MSI for packagers; not an option for 
> everyone but works for me.
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Ogilvie [mailto:steven.ogil...@titus.com]
> Sent: 12 December 2012 21:32
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How do you extract the files from a bundle - 
> answer
>
> I have worked as a packager for the Federal Government which uses 
> SCCM, we at times have extracted .MSI's from Microsoft's packages and 
> wrapped them... it is common to do so...
>
> Some installers come in an executable compressed file where you 
> extract the files to a location  and you can use those files in SCCM...
>
> I have:
>
> myBundle.exe which is only 800kb
> a Redist folder with all the .exe's and .msi's for the pre requisites 
> and the main installer
>
> runs the same as having a 30 meg exe :)
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com]
> Sent: December-12-12 4:22 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How do you extract the files from a bundle - 
> answer
>
> WiX is free they can always download it.
>
> (I really hope no one does that to my bundle, how would they know the 
> logic associated with installing the MSIs.)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Ogilvie [mailto:steven.ogil...@titus.com]
> Sent: 12 December 2012 20:51
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How do you extract the files from a bundle - 
> answer
>
> Clients who use GPO as a measure of releasing to mass desktops :) it 
> can only use .MSI's
>
> Personally I would rather use SCCM :)
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com]
> Sent: December-12-12 3:45 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Cc: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How do you extract the files from a bundle - 
> answer
>
> Out of interest why would end users ever need this? I just thought it 
> was handy for validating the contents.
>
> Neil
>
> On 12 Dec 2012, at 20:05, "Steven Ogilvie" <steven.ogil...@titus.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks...
> >
> > But at runtime this is moot since users won't have a copy of dark...
> >
> > Hopefully the feature request will be acted on, since there is a 
> > command line parameter to do so but it doesn't do anything :(
> >
> > I ended up NOT compressing the pre reqs and my installs into the 
> > bundle exe so I have the bundle exe with a Redist directory where 
> > the .Exe's and .Msi's reside in
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com]
> > Sent: December-12-12 2:54 PM
> > To: General toolset. (wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net)
> > Subject: [WiX-users] How do you extract the files from a bundle - 
> > answer
> >
> > I might be wrong but I think this has been asked a few times but not
> answered (in fact I think there is even a feature request).
> >
> > Well after writing the code to do this I discovered it already 
> > existed
> in "dark":
> >    "%wix%bin\dark" setup.exe -x .\out
> >
> > This will extract all the embedded files and user experience data 
> > from
> setup.exe to the folder "out".
> >
> > Hope this is useful.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > Neil Sleightholm
> > X2 Systems Limited
> > n...@x2systems.com<mailto:n...@x2systems.com>
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