Note: creating an executable over 200MB tends to have pretty poor launch experience on Windows (especially if signed). Users often will launch the executable multiple times because it takes a while for Windows to finish all the verification.
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Steven Ogilvie <steven.ogil...@titus.com>wrote: > I would rather have: > > 1. all bundled in bootstrapper (one big .exe :) > 2. all non company pre requisite .exe's, .msi's in a redist folder and > all internal packages bundled in bootstrapper > > BUT since we have a requirement for clients using GPO they require a way > to have all the packages available :( > But hey... it all works out in the end :) > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] > Sent: December-13-12 2:22 PM > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How do you extract the files from a bundle - > answer > > And, just for my knowledge, is that generally acceptable? > > > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Steven Ogilvie <steven.ogil...@titus.com > >wrote: > > > Yup that is what I have done :) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] > > Sent: December-13-12 11:33 AM > > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How do you extract the files from a bundle - > > answer > > > > If that is a requirement, why not leave the packages uncompressed from > > the bundle? The /layout switch would download everything they need. > > The only trick then is to document the order (which is impossible in > > GPO, IIRC) and Properties (if any) to pass to the packages. > > > > Does that not work? > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Steven Ogilvie > > <steven.ogil...@titus.com > > >wrote: > > > > > That is what I would typically do as well, however we have clients > > > that use GPO to move/run the packages throughout their organizations > > > and require the .MSI to be available... > > > We will of course document what needs to be run in what sequence and > > > command line parameters :) > > > > > > steve > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] > > > Sent: December-13-12 11:12 AM > > > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How do you extract the files from a bundle > > > - answer > > > > > > That follows the typical use cases exactly. <smile/> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Neil Sleightholm > > > <n...@x2systems.com > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > Same here, if it is something I can download from Microsoft (.NET, > > > > SQL > > > > etc.) I leave it external; if it is ours it is internal. This > > > > means the bundle is 300Mb and the external stuff is another 240Mb; > > > > typically an update will only require the main setup. The reason > > > > for using dark to extract the MSI's was to validate an install > > > > problem > > with one MSI. > > > > > > > > Neil > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] > > > > Sent: 13 December 2012 05:50 > > > > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > > > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How do you extract the files from a > > > > bundle > > > > - answer > > > > > > > > Random data point: the WiX toolset leaves the redists external and > > > > only our stuff internal (for the final builds where we use an > > > > attached container). > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Neil Sleightholm > > > > <n...@x2systems.com > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > I know it is common - I have had to do it, I just hope some asks > > > > > before trying to repackage my 540Mb of install! We have actually > > > > > chosen two models of distribution, one that includes everything > > > > > (.NET, Windows Installer, SQL > > > > > etc.) and the other just the MSI for packagers; not an option > > > > > for everyone but works for me. > > > > > > > > > > Neil > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Steven Ogilvie [mailto:steven.ogil...@titus.com] > > > > > Sent: 12 December 2012 21:32 > > > > > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > > > > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How do you extract the files from a > > > > > bundle > > > > > - answer > > > > > > > > > > I have worked as a packager for the Federal Government which > > > > > uses SCCM, we at times have extracted .MSI's from Microsoft's > > > > > packages and wrapped them... it is common to do so... > > > > > > > > > > Some installers come in an executable compressed file where you > > > > > extract the files to a location and you can use those files in > > SCCM... > > > > > > > > > > I have: > > > > > > > > > > myBundle.exe which is only 800kb a Redist folder with all the > > > > > .exe's and .msi's for the pre requisites and the main installer > > > > > > > > > > runs the same as having a 30 meg exe :) > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com] > > > > > Sent: December-12-12 4:22 PM > > > > > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > > > > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How do you extract the files from a > > > > > bundle > > > > > - answer > > > > > > > > > > WiX is free they can always download it. > > > > > > > > > > (I really hope no one does that to my bundle, how would they > > > > > know the logic associated with installing the MSIs.) > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Steven Ogilvie [mailto:steven.ogil...@titus.com] > > > > > Sent: 12 December 2012 20:51 > > > > > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > > > > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How do you extract the files from a > > > > > bundle > > > > > - answer > > > > > > > > > > Clients who use GPO as a measure of releasing to mass desktops > > > > > :) it can only use .MSI's > > > > > > > > > > Personally I would rather use SCCM :) > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com] > > > > > Sent: December-12-12 3:45 PM > > > > > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > > > > > Cc: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > > > > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How do you extract the files from a > > > > > bundle > > > > > - answer > > > > > > > > > > Out of interest why would end users ever need this? I just > > > > > thought it was handy for validating the contents. > > > > > > > > > > Neil > > > > > > > > > > On 12 Dec 2012, at 20:05, "Steven Ogilvie" > > > > > <steven.ogil...@titus.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks... > > > > > > > > > > > > But at runtime this is moot since users won't have a copy of > > dark... > > > > > > > > > > > > Hopefully the feature request will be acted on, since there is > > > > > > a command line parameter to do so but it doesn't do anything > > > > > > :( > > > > > > > > > > > > I ended up NOT compressing the pre reqs and my installs into > > > > > > the bundle exe so I have the bundle exe with a Redist > > > > > > directory where the .Exe's and .Msi's reside in > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com] > > > > > > Sent: December-12-12 2:54 PM > > > > > > To: General toolset. (wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net) > > > > > > Subject: [WiX-users] How do you extract the files from a > > > > > > bundle > > > > > > - answer > > > > > > > > > > > > I might be wrong but I think this has been asked a few times > > > > > > but not > > > > > answered (in fact I think there is even a feature request). > > > > > > > > > > > > Well after writing the code to do this I discovered it already > > > > > > existed > > > > > in "dark": > > > > > > "%wix%bin\dark" setup.exe -x .\out > > > > > > > > > > > > This will extract all the embedded files and user experience > > > > > > data from > > > > > setup.exe to the folder "out". > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this is useful. > > > > > > > > > > > > Neil > > > > > > > > > > > > Neil Sleightholm > > > > > > X2 Systems Limited > > > > > > n...@x2systems.com<mailto:n...@x2systems.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > > > 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