Sorry, posted that last one to the wrong conversation :( Rob et. al. I have a question regarding upgrading WiX.
We have several RTMs that have been produced using 3.7 and 3.9. Is it "supported" to move producing updated installers+patches to newer versions of WiX? My concern is that I don't want to have a large number of WiX versions floating around as both WiX and our own products mature over time. Thanks, Stephen -----Original Message----- From: Tunney, Stephen [mailto:stephen.tun...@nuance.com] Sent: June-10-15 1:46 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patches no longer working for a specific RTM using WiX 3.7 + Pure WiX Patching Bug logged and pull request for 3.10 already created and awaiting Bob's firm but fair hands to review it :) http://wixtoolset.org/issues/4792 https://github.com/wixtoolset/wix3/pull/268 -----Original Message----- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@firegiant.com] Sent: June-10-15 1:42 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patches no longer working for a specific RTM using WiX 3.7 + Pure WiX Patching Validating the provided .wixpdb actually goes with the .MSI seems like a good idea. _______________________________________________________________ FireGiant | Dedicated support for the WiX toolset | http://www.firegiant.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Tunney, Stephen [mailto:stephen.tun...@nuance.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 6:37 AM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patches no longer working for a specific RTM using WiX 3.7 + Pure WiX Patching Well after a week of wasting my time on this it turns out we had a file restore of a IT-Special kind. They restore the wixpdb folder to the WRONG directory. This meant that the wixpdb files didn't match up with the MSIs that we were melting against and this caused the issues downstream. Can we add validation of things like ProductCode, Version, UpgradeCode to melt please when a wixpdb is provided with the MSI? This would have saved folks a HUGE amount of time and I think is an essential part of validating a pair of files are meant to be together. -----Original Message----- From: Tunney, Stephen [mailto:stephen.tun...@nuance.com] Sent: June-09-15 1:56 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patches no longer working for a specific RTM using WiX 3.7 + Pure WiX Patching I've been digging a lot deeper into what is going on when installing the product vs. applying the patch. Running procmon.exe (sysinternals) I see that the product is being registered here: HKCR\Installer\Products\BA2E5E0A5A687F244A67FD7AC4440CC2 HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Products\BA2E5E0A5A687F244A67FD7AC4440CC2\InstallProperties The UpgradeCode is here: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UpgradeCodes\CC10F1EC4984F7947A3470DD3A64810E\ BA2E5E0A5A687F244A67FD7AC4440CC2 (REG_SZ) But when the patch is run it is looking for the product in the following locations (and can't find it, obviously): HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Products\9A9192E5849F91945A1B03B88B701A97\InstallProperties So the key difference being RTM--> BA2E5E0A5A687F244A67FD7AC4440CC2 Patch-> 9A9192E5849F91945A1B03B88B701A97 What forces drive windows installer to look in this path? Is this based on a "stable GUID" of some kind that may be changing under the hood that we can't see? Thoughts anyone? -----Original Message----- From: keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca [mailto:keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca] Sent: June-09-15 9:04 AM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patches no longer working for a specific RTM using WiX 3.7 + Pure WiX Patching This may be totally off base, so take it with a grain of salt, but: I seem to remember that MSPs generally share a product code with their parent, though it drove me crazy trying to figure that sort of thing out. I have now told my colleagues I don't intent to support them, because they seemed way more trouble than they are worth. At least for now, all our applications are under approximately 10 megabytes, and isn't worth it sending "pieces". (This may come back to haunt me later when new applications arrive, because they are supposedly ~100 megabytes and we may not be able to make bundles that we can then factor into MSIs for updates.) Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-854-5589 Facsimile | Télécopieur 613-951-4674 Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada -----Original Message----- From: Tunney, Stephen [mailto:stephen.tun...@nuance.com] Sent: June-08-15 7:57 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patches no longer working for a specific RTM using WiX 3.7 + Pure WiX Patching Ok, so from my wixmst I get the following in my _SummaryInformation table <row sectionId="*/*" sourceLineNumber="E:\dev\File.wxs*8"> <field>9</field> <field>{5E2919A9-F948-4919-A5B1-308BB807A179}5.4.23.4809;{269AF2D8-5BA4-4D2C-9C53-27588F1D1A33}5.4.0.0;{CE1F01CC-4894-497F-A743-07DDA34618E0}</field> </row> >From my RTM WixPDB xml I have this in the Property table: <row sectionId="*.ProductCode" sourceLineNumber="E:\dev\File.wxs*7"> <field>ProductCode</field> <field>{5E2919A9-F948-4919-A5B1-308BB807A179}</field> </row> I hope I'm going in the right direction. Maybe someone has some insights out there? :) -----Original Message----- From: Tunney, Stephen [mailto:stephen.tun...@nuance.com] Sent: June-08-15 3:48 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patches no longer working for a specific RTM using WiX 3.7 + Pure WiX Patching I have found an article written by Heath: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/heaths/archive/2014/04/09/9546739.aspx Excerpt: Windows Installer will evaluate each patch against the specified product. However, if installing the patch or patches using MsiApplyMultiplePatches() with a specific ProductCode, Windows Installer will modify the PATCH property to list only the patch packages with the specified ProdutCode in their Template summary property. If you're not sure which patches apply to a product, this may be desirable behavior. If you pass in the PATCH property yourself and even one patch does not apply to the specified ProductCode, Windows Installer will terminate and return ERROR_PATCH_TARGET_NOT_FOUND (1642). I'm confused ever so slightly. Now which ProductCode would be in the patch then? I can't see it in Orca? Would I look in the .wixmst for that detail after the torch call in my PWP process? -----Original Message----- From: Tunney, Stephen [mailto:stephen.tun...@nuance.com] Sent: June-08-15 3:45 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Cc: Tuchlinsky, Dave Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patches no longer working for a specific RTM using WiX 3.7 + Pure WiX Patching More details on the patch I'm trying to run I have set up a clean OS install (fresh from ISO) and am trying to apply the patch. I have SysInternals DebugView running and the HKLM Software Policies for Windows\Installer Debug set to "7" as per: https://support.symantec.com/en_US/article.HOWTO4103.html I get the followin in DebugView [1348] SHIMVIEW: ShimInfo(Complete) [1348] MSI (c) (44:AC) [19:40:49:510]: Machine policy value 'Debug' is 7 [1348] [1348] MSI (c) (44:AC) [19:40:49:510]: Entering MsiApplyPatch. Package: .\MY-HF-244444-CAS.msp, Product: , Installtype: 0, Commandline: [1348] [1348] MSI (c) (44:AC) [19:40:49:510]: Machine policy value 'DisableUserInstalls' is 0 [1348] [1348] MSI (c) (44:AC) [19:40:49:510]: MsiApplyPatch is returning: 1642 [1348] What else would you guys like to see? -----Original Message----- From: Tunney, Stephen [mailto:stephen.tun...@nuance.com] Sent: June-08-15 1:19 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: [WiX-users] Patches no longer working for a specific RTM using WiX 3.7 + Pure WiX Patching Hello all, I have run across quite the puzzle last week. We have been generating patches for several RTM versions of our products since December or 2013 with Pure WiX patching and 3.7. Just recently (about a week ago) the patch scripts are generating MSPs for ONE of the versions that do not apply to its RTM. I'm getting no Windows Installer logs, however Orca is reporting the following when I try to "View Patch..." --------------------------- Orca --------------------------- This patch can not be applied to packages with the current Product Code. --------------------------- OK I see the ProductCode in the "Upgrade" MSI is different to that of the PC in the RTM. Should this matter? When attempting to apply the patch on a Server OS (2008 R2) I get the following: Windows Installer The upgrade patch cannot be installed by the Windows Installer service because the program to be upgraded may be missing, or the upgrade patch may update a difference version of the program. Verify that the program to be upgraded exists on your computer and that you have the correct upgrade patch. What else should I be looking at from MSIExec? I've been working on this for the better part of 5 days and can't figure out what is going on. I can reproduce the issue on my dev box as well with a newly built Upgrade MSI. 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