And what does it mean to "base it on CMS"? 

It could, for example, mean that 
1) the same functionality as CMS has to be provided (but with a JSON encoding)
2) folks should look at CMS to get inspired
3) for a chosen subset of CMS that the JSON-based realization must be 
semantically equivalent (for example, to make translation easy or so)
4) re-use of parts is encouraged (such as registries, etc.) 

What did you had in mind, Paul? 

On Jul 8, 2011, at 12:17 AM, Anthony Nadalin wrote:

> Why do we need to base this on CMS, that should be an open.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Hoffman [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 10:55 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [woes] New WOES charter proposal
> 
> More comments, please.
> 
> On Jul 5, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> 
>> Greetings again. After discussion with our ADs about having a much more 
>> limited charter than what was initially proposed, Richard Barnes and I have 
>> come up with the following. We would like this discussed as much as possible 
>> on the list before the Quebec meeting so that the meeting can be about 
>> finalizing the charter. Thus, comments are welcome.
>> 
>> We also note that the WG might want to change its name to JOES (JavaScript 
>> Object Encryption and Signing) to make its work clearer to people who don't 
>> read the first paragraph of the charter.
>> 
>> Web Object Encryption and Signing (woes) 
>> ========================================
>> 
>> Background
>> ----------
>> 
>> JSON is a text format for the serialization of structured data described in 
>> RFC 4627. The JSON format is often used for serializing and transmitting 
>> structured data over a network connection. With the increased usage of JSON 
>> in protocols in the IETF and elsewhere, there is now a desire to offer 
>> security services such as object encryption and message signing for data 
>> that is being carried in JSON format.
>> 
>> Different proposals for providing such security services have already been 
>> defined and implemented. This Working Group's task is to standardize two 
>> security services, encrypting and digitally signing, in order to increase 
>> interoperability of security features between protocols that use JSON. The 
>> Working Group will base its work on the Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS), 
>> and will solicit input from the rest of the IETF Security Area to be sure 
>> that the security functionality in the JSON format is correct.
> 
>> 
>> This group is chartered to work on one or two documents:
>> 
>> 1) A Standards Track document specifying how to apply a JSON-structured 
>> digital signature to data, including (but not limited to) JSON data 
>> structures.
>> 
>> 2) A Standards Track document specifying how to apply a JSON-structured 
>> encryption to data, including (but not limited to) JSON data structures.
>> 
>> The working group may decide to address both of these goals in a single 
>> document, in which case the concrete milestones for signing/encryption below 
>> will both be satisfied by the single document.
>> 
>> Goals and Milestones
>> --------------------
>> 
>> Aug 2011    Submit JSON object signing document as a WG item.
>> 
>> Aug 2011    Submit JSON object encryption document as a WG item.
>> 
>> Jan 2012    Start Working Group Last Call on JSON object signing document.
>> 
>> Jan 2012    Start Working Group Last Call on JSON object encryption document.
>> 
>> Feb 2012    Submit JSON object signing document to IESG for consideration as 
>> Standards Track document.
>> 
>> Feb 2012    Submit JSON object encryption document to IESG for consideration 
>> as Standards Track document.
>> 
>> --Paul Hoffman
>> 
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> 
> --Paul Hoffman
> 
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