Your proposal is mostly inline to what will be approved. But,

Is American media what transfer information to American people. I have
no idea how they will trasfer it along the next two years or so, the
shorter necesary period to accomplish all those tasks. I do not know
if they will decide to blame at Bush, or at Obama, or at China, or at
Muslims, or at inmigration, or at a new scapegoat that they fabricate.

They had to make a decission. We either create a new currency for
international trade or we use the US dollar.

The first choice will take a lot of time and a lot of regulations as
that currency would have to be stable against major currencies. We
should create an international mechanism to counter speculators and
keep major national currencies stable against such international
currency. Even it should have to counter speculation from national
central banks that could suddenly print trillions of their domestic
currency, and then, the rest of the world should have to pay for its
wrongdoings. Also, it would require to change trillions of contracts,
agreements, etc. among corporations involved in foreign trade. And
also, it would produce the collapse of the US dollar.

The second choice allows to walk this path step by step. The price to
pay  is that USA has no longer a central bank and a national currency.
But, in fact, the Fed does not belong to USA and the US dollar is the
currency of the Fed, not the currency of USA. I mean, USA already lost
its central bank and its national currency decades ago. Yes, this will
have a politic price in the public opinion arena, but not in real
economic arena, not in the global economy. The change is as easy as
some banks sell their shares to the IMF and the Fed gets "divorced" of
the US Congress requirements. Just formal steps that can be
accomplished in few days when everything will be ready.

You wrote <<But why not have all solutions go through the IMF.  In
other words, the sovereign funds can loan money to the IMF to be used
in accordance with such and such rules.  If the US has complied then
they can borrow the money.  If the US has not complied, the funds will
not be available to them.>>. Roughly, that is the plan. In further
steps, countries will allow the IMF to print money and/or to lend
money to national central banks acconding to the global needs, and
national economic needs under international monitoring. Probably using
US dollars.

<<We will be "forced" by outside realities to bite the bullet.>>
Right, that is the plan. Not just USA, all countries will be part of
the global community on condition that their policies comply with such
minimum healthy requirements that the IMF will define. as the Peterson
Institute for International Economics stated in the link that I posted
above. But, as prof. Rogoff wrote "Without its own currency, the IMF
is poorly positioned to intervene with the overwhelming force needed
for lender-of-last-resort operations", or, in other words, as the
global central bank that can inject funds into economies though local
central banks. To make the IMF allowed to print US dollars, the Fed,
the true owner of the US dollar, must be formally and legally subject
to IMF jusrisdiction, not to US Congress nor to its current owners
(the Western major banks) only. You are ready for such announcement,
but I am afraid that most Americans and Westerners are not, it will be
as shocking at least, as when Nixon announced that the US dollar will
not be backed by gold any longer.

The recent agreements of the Fed allowing other central banks to print
US dollars on swap premises, is a useful example on how this mechanism
will work in the future. It worked fine. However, it has to be
refined, national central banks have to commit to keep a certain
exchange rate and those agreements must be formally approved by the
international community through the IMF. And probably, we will find
that further refinement must be done as we discover "holes" in such
agreements along time.

Peace and best wishes.

Xi



On 6 nov, 17:21, Justice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wish the truth could be known now.  Because of the politics in my
> country, waiting for the inevitable only means that the blame will
> fall squarely on the man who inherits the problems, and not the man
> responsible for the problems.
>
> Pushing in favor of rules now is a good thing.  It's something he can
> take back home to the Congress, and tell them what's in the wind if we
> do not do the right thing.  We will be "forced" by outside realities
> to bite the bullet.
>
> But why not have all solutions go through the IMF.  In other words,
> the sovereign funds can loan money to the IMF to be used in accordance
> with such and such rules.  If the US has complied then they can borrow
> the money.  If the US has not complied, the funds will not be
> available to them.
>
> That's something that could be accomplished now.  It doesn't require
> subsuming the FED per se, it requires that all of America would be
> under the new rules starting immediately.
>
> It's not too soon for me -- better now to blame Bush than wait and
> find the man most likely to help will be blamed and hurt??
>
> On Nov 6, 10:48 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Obviously what I wrote above is just my opinion and just at the date
> > when I wrote it. Talks and sharings are still on its way and nothing
> > has been formally agreed.
>
> > Peace and best wishes.
>
> > Xi
>
> > On 6 nov, 16:45, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > During the last weeks most think tanks, governmental agencies and
> > > departments, international organizations, universities, etc. are
> > > working hard (or should have been) to prepare the summit on November
> > > 15th.,
>
> > > Which are the current positions? Basically three, or two dot five.
>
> > > The first one, although it has no posibility at this point, is the
> > > right wing wish, to do nothing too significant except to take funds
> > > from developing countries to fund recovery in developed ones in the
> > > hope that, somehow, it will produce developent in dveloping countries
> > > later. Again the top-down approach.
>
> > > The third one, although it has no posibility to win today, is to
> > > approve the road map to fix the real problems. It means not just a
> > > change in the financial order and its institutions, such as the IMF,
> > > but also to change the monetary practices and in particular the
> > > international currency. I must understand that public opinions in the
> > > West, and in particular in USA, are not ready for such announcements,
> > > specially when a new administration will come within some weeks.
> > > Politics is above economics, I accept it. Then, we will have to see
> > > more emergency summits along the next two years.
>
> > > In the middle, the second one. As I wrote some weeks ago, that summit
> > > will approve three strategies:
>
> > > 1. To set up a new financial toolkit that becomes mandatory for
> > > financial institutions of any sort since rating agencies to commercial
> > > banks. Enhancing and fixing current agreements such as Basel 2 and the
> > > Financial Stability Forum (FSF). Obviously, international monitoring
> > > institutions have to be created or empowered.
>
> > > As the The Peterson Institute for International Economics states (1)
> > > "The objective should be to turn the IMF into a body where national
> > > authorities agree on the outlines of what each of them will legislate.
> > > In particular, one envisages that an international agreement made in
> > > the IMF will lay down minimum standards that all countries will
> > > ensure. The actual tasks of regulation and supervision will remain
> > > national responsibilities."
>
> > > Now, the developed nations have to leave Wonderland and face the real
> > > world. No country will fund them any longer unless those who really
> > > own the economic means control that their funds are used properly.
>
> > > As as example, it means that US economic policy will not longer be
> > > allowed to use "shopping and tax cuts the official macroeconomic
> > > policy of the United States." (2) as Jeffrey Sachs writes in an
> > > article that I strongly recommend to my American friends.
>
> > > Although as prof. Kenneth Rogoff wrote today (3) "Without its own
> > > currency, the IMF is poorly positioned to intervene with the
> > > overwhelming force needed for lender-of-last-resort operations. In
> > > principle, the IMF could be allowed to print money (it already has its
> > > own accounting unit, the so-called Special Drawing Rights). But this
> > > is not realistic, given the lack of an adequate system for global
> > > governance.".
>
> > > Probably he has not received information on the proposal to
> > > subordinate the Fed to a part of the IMF and the US dollar the
> > > currency of the IMF. In any case,. this step will not be approved on
> > > November. Therefore, we will have to let that the rules approved in
> > > November fail and public opinion in the West will be ready for next
> > > steps.
>
> > > 2. To create an international structure that reflects the real
> > > situation of the economic and financial order. The West, in particular
> > > USA, has a huge capacity to create global problems, but is Asia which
> > > has a huge capacity to fix them. To balance the power in the IMF and
> > > other international institutions will be a second achievement. The
> > > West cannot count on blank checks any longer to fix their problems. In
> > > particular while it still shows doubts on sovereign wealth funds that
> > > is exactly where the solution will come from.
>
> > > 3. And finally, the obvious one. The summit itself. This gathering
> > > shows and prepares the internation public opinion for the truth. This
> > > is no longer a "Western world plus Japan". It is a multipolar world,
> > > despite what people likes or dislikes.
>
> > > Peace and best wishes.
>
> > > Xi
>
> > > (1)  http://www.petersoninstitute.org/realtime/?p=153
>
> > > (2)http://www.thebigmoney.com/articles/judgments/2008/11/05/what-obama-n...
>
> > > (3)http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/eo20081106a2.html-Hide quoted 
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