On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:14:13 +1100, deliciousdays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I agree, the 980px limitation in width is not good *to say the least*
and the fact that a 'plugin' is offered to overwrite this CSS setting is
a joke, right?!
No offense intended D, but I'm getting more and more frustrated with
many of the recent design and UI decisions.

None taken at all, The way i see it though, Is that the design choice has been made for the 2.5 release, I dont agree with it, I might as well offer a plugin to change it. Theres a few things i dont agree with the new interface, but its not worth going into them all.

The feedback given will be what steers the UI changes, Theres been a remarkably small number of complaints about the width from what i've seen, which means most people who have been testing dont mind that much. Most feedback on the changes have been positive, So its either people like it, They dont care, or they dont complain.

If once 2.5 is released, and theres a huge backlash of users wanting their fluid back, then feedback may dictate a change to be made.

If those who want the fluid design back, feel strong enough about it, go rate it: http://wordpress.org/extend/ideas/topic.php?id=1291 Might as well collate the votes somewhere.

To a point where I simply don't care and am happy (and already have) to
apply my own admin CSS theme with JS driven menu tabs.

But why not spend more time on fixing real issues than trying so hard to
come up with a different UI, that seems to be put together 'on-the-fly'.

To be fair, HappyCog( http://www.happycog.com/ ) did put a fair ammount of effort into the new design, And based it around a lot of user research, Put together some wireframe mockups of a better interface, And piece by piece, the Devs have done a great job of implementing the changes, and improving WP in so many other ways at the same time.

WP 2.5 also includes the ability for Plugins to overrule the Admin theme all together, So i'd expect to see a few spinoffs which improve upon the current design, If the changes are popular enough, then i'm sure Devs would consider pulling those changes into the core. Once you've used the 2.5 admin for awhile, Its much comfier, if you've just changed over from the old interface, then its going to take some time to get your grips on it, As expected.

All i'm trying to say, Is give it a chance before writing it off entirely.

There'll allways be people who do *not* want to change,

There'll be people claiming the old interface is better, and *nothing* will change their minds,
There'll be people who like it, but dont agree with some aspects,
and there'll be those who love it,

Those 3 groups of people are expected,
Theres people who absolutely hate the old interface,
Theres people who liked it, but found it cumbersome, or felt it was time for a change,
and theres people who loved it.

Point is, nothing much has changed, its just the people may have switched group.

So, If someone doesnt like a current design choice, Voice it, get it known, Who knows, Fluid width might be back in 2.5.1

O

PS: Someone somewhere wrote "WP is the new Windows" - I hope not.


DD32 wrote:
Aparantly most people prefer a thin content frame rather than a fluid content frame.

Personally, If i want my content thin, i resize the browser window.

I wrote up a plugin to remove the maximum width if you would like to try a full width admin.
http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/remove-max-width/

D

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:06:49 +1100, Eric Amundson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 03/26/2008 Vladimir Vuckovic wrote:

I don't know is this bug, but I'm running my computer on 1280x960
pixels and I notice that whole WordPress 2.5 (which is so amazing) is
on the left align, not centered or streched 100%... I think that it's
better to be in whole window, not only on the left and there's a lot
of blank space at the right...

Thanks,
Vladimir

Hi Vladimir,

I'm running on a few monitors - both wide screens.

I think if you look closer, the header and footer expand to fill the
width of the browser, no matter what the width.

The 'body' of the admin panel, which is wrapped in a div class="wrap"
has a max-width of 980px, which is likely to spare the design from
breaking or becoming too hard to read (excessive line lengths), when
maximized on wider screens.

I like this a lot and rarely maximize my browser anyway on a wider screen.

eric
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