That little back stage bronzed and tutu'd rat phallic?
Jeez, where's a cigar when you need it?

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--- Talan Memmott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Funny how your critique of the Degas dancer
> sculptures is similar what
> they were panned for originally -- as being ugly,
> and their content
> mundane. Plus, phallic... That is not to say you are
> being
> conservative in your critique since they are so
> entrenched in
> mass-aesthetics, as you say safe icons...
>
> I've always seen these as perverse mannequins -- to
> be dressed and
> undressed. And, considering that only one was cast
> in bronze during
> Degas' lifetime, this seems to play as true.... a
> bunch of wax
> fetishes filling degas studio....
>
> maybe they are safe, because the backstory is
> missing... I remember
> seeing people greeting one of these sculptures at
> SFMOMA with a "ain't
> that cute" sort of "ahhhhhhh."  which always kinda
> made me laugh....
>
> As to macro photos of art in museums... got kicked
> out of the National
> Gallery in London for doing this.... of course, they
> didn't tell me
> 'never come back' so I did... in like 10 minutes. Of
> course, zero
> photography is allowed there.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >believe it or not, this is exactly what I was
> thinking when I was
> >working
> >on the series. The Degas dancers are bronze,
> sometimes with wire
> >netting
> >for the tutu, but always phallic, as if the legs
> were falling apart,
> >tumored. I have no idea why they're as popular as
> they are, but then
> >Degas
> >leaves me cold personally. In any case, they seem
> 'safe' icons in an
> >odd
> >way, and I wanted to present otherwise. It was
> difficult shooting at
> >the
> >Norton Simon - you're allowed to without flash, but
> not exactly that
> >close. -- Alan
> >
> >
> >On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, Lanny Quarles wrote:
> >
> >> this is interesting alan. my sense is that the
> rough frayed
> >>topology, and
> >> really its gridding,
> >> of the head covering is a kind of analogy for
> mappings; libidinal,
> >>aesthetic,
> >> sensory, personal, linguistic, etc.
> >> also in the sense of a weaving, mappings as
> weavings or vast
> >>constructionist
> >> integrals in a calculus
> >> of embodiment, and the sense that the rough
> edges, the "severed' or
> >> 'cross-sectional' (sampled?) topology,
> >> as it were, is a reflection of coding practices,
> or the praxis of
> >> instantiation by/within the individual agent,
> >> an imperfect "imaging" of larger vectors, dogmas,
> genetics, beliefs,
> >>etc. am
> >> I even close?
> >> And even the idea of the physicality of topology
> as a kind of
> >>'filter'
> >> (re:perception) is reflected
> >> in the synthetic pixel filtering beneathe the
> shroud-topology. as if
> >>the
> >> coding of the filter produces
> >> not only inner instantiations but external ones
> as well, which of
> >>course is
> >> the abolition of the
> >> subject/object dichotomy in any deconstruction
> which in this case
> >>seems to
> >> point to "constructionism"
> >> as it universal agent.. perhaps the frayed edges
> define the
> >>deconstructive
> >> agency, as if this particular
> >> individual or object has been wrenched from the
> grid, and these
> >>loose fibers
> >> represent a kind of
> >> annoyance to the smoothness of the artifice of
> "culture" or
> >>"perception" as
> >> an institution of the socium.
> >>
> >> lq.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Alan Sondheim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 9:13 AM
> >> Subject: Degas' Dancer, deconstruction, the west
> >>
> >>
> >>> deconstruction of
> >>>
> >>> deconstruction of Degas
> >>> deconstruction of Painting
> >>> deconstruction of Impressionism
> >>> deconstruction of The West
> >>> deconstruction of Culture
> >>> deconstruction of Perception
> >>> deconstruction of The Real
> >>>
> >>> http://www.asondheim.org/degaslegs3.jpg
> >>> http://www.asondheim.org/degaslegs4.jpg
> >>> http://www.asondheim.org/degasribbon.jpg
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
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