It's like playing an instrument - I can't tell you what the mathematical relationship is since I don't know the filtering in audiomulch in terms of that. It's all highly adjustable - you set up networked components to produce whatever you want, and most of the components have numerous parameters. I listen to it, and this is what I wanted. I haven't worked conceptually as you do; it's not that much of interest to me - what is, for me, is the ability to improvise through these frameworks.

- Alan


On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, mwp wrote:

I can hear that the guitar and computer parts are related, -- except for ion3, which I will have to listen to again more closely. What I don?t hear is how the pitches in the computer part are derived from what the guitar is doing. It clearly isn?t a tonal relationship, and it doesn?t sound random; it?s more more like the computer is generating sum and difference tones off of the guitar part or something, -- that?s what I was asking about. If the explanation is to be found in the Roads book, I?ll definitely be checking it out. Reading about the topic of microsound on the Net makes me realize that I never really followed up on a fascination I had with Xenakis? granular approach to tone generation some 10+ years ago. Definitely something I intend to return to, now that I have the tools to produce such sounds fairly easily within Matlab.

m



On Dec 9, 2005, at 9:44 PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:


They're all produced directly with audiomulch (which you can also use live) - there's no overdubbing. The theory behind at least some of this stuff can be found in Curtis Roads' Microsound (MIT) which I highly recommend. The notes really are in relation to the input, although I can see where that might be difficult to see...

- Alan


On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, mwp wrote:

Yes, I remember these pieces and have enjoyed listening to them again. I?m fascinated by how the computer is determining the pitches from the playing (in real time, I suspect, which is amazing). It doesn?t sound like there is any tonal relationship to the notes on the guitar. Is it some kind of ring modulation that's affecting which notes get picked, or is it something else?

Ion3 also doesn?t seem to have the same derivation as the others. It sounds like you are improvising to a previous recording of yourself, with only the computer part retained in the recording, -- or is it more complicated than that?

m


On Dec 9, 2005, at 6:41 PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:

http://www.asondheim.org/ion2.mp3
http://www.asondheim.org/ion3.mp3
http://www.asondheim.org/ion4.mp3
http://www.asondheim.org/whit.mp3
- these are a few but these are fairly primitive - I can put up others if
needs be - Alan
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, mwp wrote:
I think Audiomulch is Windows only, so that puts me at a disadvantage.
Still, I'd like to hear what it can do. Do you know of anybody's work
that demonstrates its capabilities? Do you have any pieces that use it?
thanks,
M
On Dec 9, 2005, at 2:28 PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:
you absolutely gotta get to the audiomulch stuff, it's 50 i think but
well
worth it, might be less and i think there might be a trial period
in any case this is hardly unbearable, quite easy to listen to -
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, mwp wrote:
HeyBullGod
2005
http://www.kunst.no/bjornmag/mpphp2004/MPDiv01x2005.mp3
[3MB mp3 audio file]
This is still in a very early phase of my investigation into the
sampling, decimating and repeating of short blocks of appropriated
audio. As such, it may be a bit more UNBEARABLE than usual, so be
forewarned! In the future, I am looking to vary the rhythm more, open
up the sound with more silences, etc. but this gives you a pretty good
bare-bones idea of what is to come. . .
mwp
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