Yes, indeed. I should have thought of that. There is also the eclectic Ou

I am now in the article itself and am puzzling over:

"I should point out that after the 1970's Cobbing moved out of Concrete

Poetry into visual poetry and beyond to wordless compositions."

I have no idea what is meant and no helpful definition of _concrete_ and
_visual_ to the explain the distinction being made has been offered

This proposed trajectory [from words] into wordlessness was proposed by Bury
Art Gallery last year and there is no evidence for it... Not that any is
offered, just the assertion, as with B A G.

I'll just point out that Cobbing continued using letters / words up to the
last and that his earliest - as far as I know - surviving work dates from
1942 and it is wordless









----- Original Message -----
From: "mIEKAL aND" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: a new essay on Visual Poetry, by Karl Kempton


> Julian Blaine's Doc(k)s started in 1976 as well & is still going tho
> not as strong as the 80s...
>
> On Mar 21, 2006, at 10:43 AM, Lawrence Upton wrote:
>
> > Ive only got as far as the intro here. He also says
> >
> >> Karl Kempton published Kaldron magazine on paper between the years
> >> 1976 and
> > 1990. This was the world's first regularly published magazine that
> > strove to
> > include all modes of visual poetry.
> >
> > Now the operative word here is *regularly because I immediately
> > think of
> > Stereo Headphones and Kroklok - and grOnk was fairly wide in its range
> >
> > L
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dan Waber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:50 PM
> > Subject: a new essay on Visual Poetry, by Karl Kempton
> >
> >
> >> The minimalist concrete poetry site at:
> >>
> >> http://www.logolalia.com/minimalistconcretepoetry/
> >>
> >> has been updated with a new essay by Karl Kempton, "VISUAL POETRY: A
> >> Brief History of Ancestral Roots and Modern Traditions".
> >>
> >> From the Introduction, by Karl Young:
> >>
> >> "In surfing the web today, you have probably passed through at
> >> least a
> >> dozen examples of word and image working together. Stated another
> >> way,
> >> you have been observing the results of prophecies and examples from
> >> the earliest petroglyphs to the visual poets who distributed their
> >> work through the mail art network when other avenues of publication
> >> were closed to them. Given changes in communications technology, it
> >> seems unlikely that visual poets will ever again be shoved back into
> >> the position of the Haitian boat people of American poetry. At the
> >> present moment, the interaction of graphics and text is so pervasive
> >> in society that you can find it in everything from warehouse tracking
> >> systems to the most sophisticated medical diagnostic techniques.
> >> Given
> >> the now ubiquitous interrelation of word and image, it would be
> >> absurd
> >> to imagine that a new generation of poets could be kept from
> >> exploring
> >> this interface of media. And it would be tragic if their predecessors
> >> would continue to be excluded from serious consideration."
> >>
> >> Enjoy,
> >> Dan
> >>
> >
>

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