hello jeff, fred and all ... please make sure that nobody of you will try to put HIS stamp onto anybody else ...
@ jeff: would u please explain a little further what u had in mind. i mean, which kind of roleplay u see for OVF within the WSFII? and maybe even critically reflect it yourself ...? @ fred: would u please explain, in how far u believe that there could be ONE modell of organisation, social and technological solution, to export and adopt to everywhere in the world? maybe u allready guess some might disagree with this attitude? in general i wouldnt see so much importance in the labelling. i think a useful label will adopt to the local circumstances and is best chosen by the local activists. freifunk is a good choice for german speakers, opendiv might be good for the geeks of the western world ... yeah, and so on. so what? grts, marco, berlin Fred Pook wrote: > Hi Jeff > > I would like to see that booklet, where do i find it? > Also i want to make it clear that opendiv has not much to do with One > Village Foundation... > I am not sure what One Village Foundation is and what it actually does > in the real world. Jeff, please stop confusing our goal with more > words. Produce, Create, Do It in the real world. Up to now One Village > Foundation, in EM radio terms, has just been noise.. > > Correct me and produce real material, real funding > or get out of this movement because our goal is real Independence > > OVF is on the edge... > > Thanks Freddy > > > > On 4/25/07, jeff buderer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Fred, >> >> We need to get this idea of OpenDIV sorted out. >> >> I feel it may be confusing people with regards to all these different >> names Resources Centers, OpenDIV and Open Digital Village. >> >> I feel the name is not important really the convergence of people >> around empowering networks is. >> >> However OVF has recently invested a lot in the naming Open Digital >> Village and a booklet has actually been published on it that we plan to >> post online soon. >> >> So I'd like us to get clear on how this what we have done relates to >> Open Div. >> >> Jeff >> >> Hi Thomas, >> >> This process of linking and sharing resources is what opendiv.org is >> for. the website of OpenDiv will contain best practices and announce >> and collect data from worldwide "Free Information Infrastructures". >> >> The actual networks are, if we agree on it or if each community agrees >> on it, called OpenDiv.net like the one in Winneba would be called >> winneba.opendiv.net . the structure of these networks will be based on >> the experiences at FreiFunk.net since they have the most worked out >> experience in this field. In fact the thinking for opendiv.org is just >> freifunk.net but because nobody can pronounce or understand the word >> freifunk, a new word was made up and that is opendiv. >> >> Gathering and Meetings, Workshop etc. are done by WSFII (World Summits >> on Free Information Infrastructures) as usual. >> >> Sorry , if earlier I did not explain the roles of the 4 structures, >> >> Thanks Freddy >> >> On 4/25/07, Thomas M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I'm more and more thinking of linking all wireless network of Africa >> into an >> > association where we could plan and share resources, Association with >> more >> > experience like Wireless Ghana could share experience with association >> busy >> > being created like those of Congo and others... >> > >> > The funding is a real problem we are facing the same thing and in fact >> we >> > noticed that we have become ourselves the funder!!!! >> > >> > >> > >> > On 4/25/07, Fred Pook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > Thanks for the good work, Marco,Daniel and Kloschi! >> > > >> > > Opendiv.org aka http://opendigitalvillage.org is shaping up. >> > > >> > > I like to remind everybody there is a Prepconf >> > > planned on: May 3-18, 07 in Winneba, Ghana to support the "Winneba >> > > Linux User Group" in their effort to build the Wireless Local Mesh >> > > (see: http://www.wilugghana.org/ ) . >> > > This prepconf has been postponed before because of lack of funding. >> > > Are we going to raise the funds this time, in time? >> > > >> > > We need funds from independent sources that focus on real concrete >> > > technical solutions in Africa and other under served communities in >> > > the world. >> > > >> > > Lets brainstorm here on this list on ideas where to find this >> > > independent funder and lets continue the brainstorm in Berlin at the >> > > WirelessCommunityWeekend aka wcw2007 (see: >> > > https://snr.freifunk.net/trac/wcw) starting this Thu >> > 26|04|2007 till >> > > Sun 29|04|2007at c-base. >> > > >> > > That reminds me that I don't even have funding to travel to Berlin >> nor >> > > that I know where to sleep but I guess I will find a solution for >> > > these small problems soon :-) >> > > >> > > See You Soon at C-Base >> > > >> > > Thanks Freddy >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On 4/24/07, marco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > hi all >> > > > >> > > > first a short reminder: the wiki for our WSFII 2007 (opendiv.org) >> is in >> > > > progress. pls. get involved. >> > > > >> > > > second: u are asked to consider ur presence on the meeting in >> > > > Winneba/Ghana in August. especially as we are supposed to work on >> the >> > > > workshop program we ll need to confirm wether we can go and in >> which way >> > > > we ll involve in the workshop program. jeff already has proposed >> some >> > > > WSs ... >> > > > >> > > > grts, marco, berlin >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > wsfii-discuss mailing list >> > > > [email protected] >> > > > http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/wsfii-discuss >> > > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > wsfii-discuss mailing list >> > > [email protected] >> > > http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/wsfii-discuss >> > > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > wsfii-discuss mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/wsfii-discuss >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> wsfii-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/wsfii-discuss >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> wsfii-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/wsfii-discuss >> > > _______________________________________________ > wsfii-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/wsfii-discuss > _______________________________________________ wsfii-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/wsfii-discuss
