As your audience and your potential customer, you are wont to pander to my every need. If you take away my ability to choose whether or not to open your link in a new window, a new tab, or even an existing window, it is likely I will never come back to your site.


I'm not saying that in a personal way, I'm just voicing out what most educated (or a little web-savvy) audiences think. It should be your site content and design, rather than a target _blank that keeps them going there. A simple shift-click brings on the new window. It is possibly a good idea to put those instructions for the user.

Lucian Teo
http://tribolum.com/


On Feb 8, 2004, at 8:45 PM, Michael Kear wrote:



The reason is we go to a great deal of trouble to get users to come to our
site and we don't want to send them away again. That's why I never allow a
client to sign up for any of those awards sites or top 100 sites.
A site gets higher ratings with search engines if there are a lot of other
sites linking to you. To get those links you usually need reciprocal links,
but that doesn't mean you want to send your users off to those sites just
yet. That's the reason you need to have a way to open a link but still
keep the users in the one place.


Another reason is if links go off to subsidiary information. You still want
to keep the flow of the original article. For example, try reading the
technical data relating to an update on the Microsoft site. You start out
by reading that "this update requires the prior installation of update
something else". To find out if you have that update you go off to that
link, which in turn takes you on another link and then another and another,
and before you know it you're off down the yellow brick road and have no
idea how to get back to the original point. If any of the pages are dynamic
you can't use the back button.


As a general rule, any link that takes a user outside my site, I put it in a
new window. If it takes them somewhere in this site, I don't.




Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com


-----Original Message----- From: James Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 8 February 2004 10:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Opening pages in new windows... was Re: [WSG] XHTML (OT??)


Hi


This kind of thing should be left up to the end user. As an example have
a look at the NASA sites at the moment -windows opening everywhere and
even using javascript to replace a simple target=_blank (why??). Really
annoying.
Modern browsers have an open in new window and the good ones have open
in new tab on the context menu. We should be letting the users (us as
well as others) decide where they want to open a new page as it's their
browsing environment. Many UA's can force all links to open in the same
page, rendering any targeting useless. Denoting external links with
icons can be a good thing if you want to show a user where they will go
(although the status bar does that as well).


If a user hits an external link on a page they can use the back button
to head back, if you want to keep state then this can be done at the
application level using sessions and whatnot.

Cheers
James


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