Re: [WSG] Design Philosophy

[Vaska . WSG]

I'm following behind the curve on this one as it seems people have put 
this to rest.  However, I really do not want to be grouped into a 
category of people who believe in standards above all else.  I am a 
print designer first and foremost.

My response, below, was really more about shock than anything else.  I 
couldn't believe that somebody would propose to take the visual design 
out of things.  If that were the case, I would probably stop building 
websites tommorrow.  In reality, it would need to be much higher than 
7% to get me to stop building websites.  I would just stop using CSS 
first...

Anyways, we were dealing with an article from 1999 (or so) - things 
become antiquated rather quickly.  Having worked in a few design shops 
I can say that group discussions about design 'philosphies' tend to 
become pedagogical exercises rather quickly as every job you ever do 
will likely be unique.

On 12 May 2004, at 18:04, P.H.Lauke wrote:

Yes, but are there any really hard statistics about what the
public is
doing.  We know roughly 7% don't use or diable javascript.  But what
about disabling styles?
<rant type="unfocussed rambling">
Why is that relevant? Heck, it's almost like we're going back to the
old "how many % of users still run at 800x600...lamers"
We know it's 7% ? Do we ? Lies, statistics and lies...it always comes
down to *your* particular audience.
Yes, we have to give up a level of control on how our pages are 
presented
(if you want pixel perfect, go back to print, or use flash/PDF/etc), 
but
we gain flexible delivery based on user preferences. We're not forcing 
our
visual sensibilities onto users that don't want them (e.g. those 
surfing
with a simple text browsers couldn't give a damn about lines and lines 
of
markup relating to presentation, or stylesheets). However, that's 
obviously
*not* the same as saying that we should therefore not care about 
presentation
at all.
</rant>

P
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