>My response, below, was really more about shock than anything else.  I
>couldn't believe that somebody would propose to take the visual design
>out of things.  If that were the case, I would probably stop building
>websites tommorrow.  In reality, it would need to be much higher than
>7% to get me to stop building websites.  I would just stop using CSS
>first...

'Don't judge a book by its cover' was probably coined by a brilliant
technician with no design sense. I think I fall somewhere in between: I do
ok with markup and get by with styling (I don't claim to be a designer). But
my off-the-cuff blog entry expresses my consideration of what a good
skeletal design can achieve. First para
http://www.seowebsitepromotion.com/enigma_log.htm.

Get a good understanding of standards constructs and you can get a pretty
good site up.

Mike Pepper
Accessible Web Developer
www.seowebsitepromotion.com


On 12 May 2004, at 18:04, P.H.Lauke wrote:

>> Yes, but are there any really hard statistics about what the
>> public is
>> doing.  We know roughly 7% don't use or diable javascript.  But what
>> about disabling styles?
>
> <rant type="unfocussed rambling">
> Why is that relevant? Heck, it's almost like we're going back to the
> old "how many % of users still run at 800x600...lamers"
>
> We know it's 7% ? Do we ? Lies, statistics and lies...it always comes
> down to *your* particular audience.
>
> Yes, we have to give up a level of control on how our pages are
> presented
> (if you want pixel perfect, go back to print, or use flash/PDF/etc),
> but
> we gain flexible delivery based on user preferences. We're not forcing
> our
> visual sensibilities onto users that don't want them (e.g. those
> surfing
> with a simple text browsers couldn't give a damn about lines and lines
> of
> markup relating to presentation, or stylesheets). However, that's
> obviously
> *not* the same as saying that we should therefore not care about
> presentation
> at all.
> </rant>
>
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