Hi guys, my first post,  :>

Patrick, while I largely agree with the whole separating content from
presentation argument (I try as best I can to adhere to XHTML 1.1 whenever I
can) I do find the case for the <i> tag compelling. Mainly this is because
it all comes down to the fact that you are simply marking up a section of
text as being italicised.  It's far better than writing out something like
<font blah blah blah> as one would have done in the bad, bad, BAD old days,
and to my mind it's more desirable than writing <span
class="senior_synonym"> which takes up 28 more characters than it needs to.
(X)HTML is a *markup* language so marking it up as italicised is fulfilling
the function of that language.  Just my two cents.

I thankee,

Iain

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Sent: 06 May 2004 18:03
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Subject: Re: [WSG] When the mix of visual appearance and meaning goes really
bad


> Absolutely! In natural science (specifically speaking about species
names
> here) Italics are the way to present the scientific name (genus
species pair
> or "senior synonym"  like <i>Thorunna australis</i> or even just the
species
> or shorthand variations), not "emphasis". I think there is a good
argument
> for using <i> here as it isn't ambiguous in any way that I want
italics. In
> this case <em> is just semantically wrong and <i> simply should not be 
> deprecated.

Hmm. This is a difficult one. I think it could be argued that this is
emphasis. In this case you are emphasising the species by displaying it in
italics.

<i> certainly isn't the way to go though with either argument - language is
supposed to be independent of presentation, be it visual or aural or
whatever.

What if the biologists that be decided to change the way this was normally
presented? What if it was deemed to be better to be in bold rather than
italics? Your HTML would then be semantically incorrect. Hypothetical, but
logical.

I think it's right to completely separate meaning and presentation and I
think it's right to deprecate i.


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Patrick Griffiths (PTG)
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