John

Whenever I've been forced to test IE5 Mac I've found it to be unreasonably slow - the rendering engine is a dud compared to other browsers. I'm sure it was cutting edge 3-5 years ago but not now.
Safari is much faster and better but it tends to have a pretty fierce cache (like Opera), as I found when a site update occurred and all Safari users got the new markup with an old stylesheet. Fun.


You mention an ABC internal standard of less than 60kb filesize. How does this work with dynamic pages? .. for instance I routinely query a database of 2 to 12 million or so rows, the filesize of the page doesn't really come into it here. I try to keep the script execution time to less than 15 seconds, something I monitor routinely - of course the transfer speed of the pipe between server and user is entirely up to the end user and not my domain. (they may have a 9.6kbps modem - which happened to me about a month ago :shock: )

It's definitely a standards and accessibility related thread - one of the biggest barriers to gaining information online is slow loading time.

Cheers
James



John Horner wrote:

In contrast, I've noticed that images called by css files (as div backgrounds) *all* download in IE and Safari on Mac (not sure about IEWin)



That's interesting.

My research found that only IE on Mac has this problem, that is, it downloads and caches all the images referenced in a stylesheet, even if they're not required for the page currently being viewed. Safari 1.2.2, at least, didn't display this behaviour.

This would certainly explain why IE on Mac is sometimes very slow loading pages for no obvious reason.

Is this off-topic? I apologise to those who think it is, but surely the idea that "smaller is better" is a standard, even if it's so obvious a standard that it goes without saying.

We have an internal standard we try to enforce where pages should be 60Kb or less, and in order to test pages against that standard, I needed a tool, that's the origin of the problem...

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