Andy Budd said: > So I'm interested to hear what you folks think. Do you hack or are you > hack free? If you hack, what methods do you use, why do you use that > method, and more importantly, why do you need it in the first place?
The most useful CSS 'hacks' I know of are the various filters developed by Tantek Celik. That way, my core style sheets stay hack-free and I can keep browser-specific hacks (like the box model hack) in separate style sheets. It's easier to maintain, and as time goes on and browser support gets better, the hacks become safely redundant. My usual set up is a filter.css that's @import-ed in the page (excluding the geriatric browsers); filter.css then imports the main, hack-free style sheet and uses the mid pass filter to pass an ie5x.css file containing the box model hacks only to IE5/Win. Ingenious! I'm considering the newest filter for IE5/Mac but, since the browser never shows up in my stats, I'm saved another level of hackery. Owen -----Original Message----- From: Andy Budd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 July 2004 11:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Hacks Whenever I trawl lists like css-discuss, I'm always surprised about the amount of hack related discussion there is. People are always talking about the holy hack, the underscore hack or the star hack, about IE7, the high pass filter or the mid pass filter. As somebody who is quite experienced with CSS you'd be forgiven for thinking that I'd know about all these hacks. However about the only hack I use (and have ever actually needed) is Taneks old school box model hack, and even this I use sparingly. So I'm interested to hear what you folks think. Do you hack or are you hack free? If you hack, what methods do you use, why do you use that method, and more importantly, why do you need it in the first place? Andy Budd http://www.message.uk.com/ ***************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ***************************************************** ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information contained in this communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorised to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient you should not disclose, copy, distribute or take action on the contents of this information, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee. Any unauthorised use is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender by email immediately and delete the message from your computer. ECOTEC Research & Consulting Limited Registered in England No. 1650169 Registered Office: Priestley House, 28-34 Albert Street, Birmingham, B4 7UD, UK Tel: +44 (0)121 616 3600 http://www.ecotec.com ________________________________________________________________________ ***************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *****************************************************
