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Posted earlier this week on ALA. Scott Reston Director, Web Development Capstrat 919/882.1966 v 919/834.7959 f 1201 Edwards Mill Road, Suite 102 Raleigh, NC 27607 www.capstrat.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Justin French Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 10:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Divs or Cells Chris, I think the answer to this question depends entirely on the content that's being displayed, and what's most important to your client: 1. accessible content 2. reliable layout in all browsers The thing is, if you design for tables, then you're forcing the browser (UA) to render tables. On hand-helds and small screens, this will more than likely result in lots of horizontal scrolling. Alternately, if you design with a CSS layout, then the content is separate from the presentation, and some UA's can choose not to use the style sheet (thus just rendering the content in an accessible manner). You can even design stylesheets specifically for those devices and (with some luck) those devices will do what you want. However, for some designers, clients and mindsets (marketing depts especially), the layout is *everything*, and they'll want pixel-perfect, locked-down design that works for every desktop browser. In this case, tables still have the upper hand if you ask me.... but since you're asking, I probably wouldn't work for a client like that these days, because I'm busy enough to pick-and-choose. If you're genuinely looking at support for alternate devices (PDA's, etc) then I think CSS (with a lot of research into alternate stylesheets, media-specific stylesheets, etc would be well worth it -- far more than tables. Justin On 03/09/2004, at 12:20 AM, Wasabi wrote: > a client with an international market needs a site redesign. The > currently use tables, but would like a transition to CSS. My concern > is their market, an international base of travelers on various > platforms with varying skill levels. > > I'm reluctant to do a full CSS redesign, fearing someone will try > to access the site from a PDA while on foto safari in the outback. > Would a well crafted, minimal table solution, i.e Designing With Web > Standards, fit the bill; or is CSS 2 penetration enough to ensure > seamless integration, as much as can be expected, for the diverse > client base? --- Justin French http://indent.com.au ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ****************************************************** ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************