Dave,

You need some tranquilizers man.

You did miss my point.

Macromedia sells a product that purports to work with IE and most other browsers. Macromedia DreamWeaver MX has a defective template. Simple as that.

A minor problem that could have been avoided by a bit more careful checking before release.

It was not glaringly apparent until I put it into a screen resolution that allowed it to be exposed.

Thanks to two fellows on this newsgroup for their guidance and simple fixes for the problem. If they can do it - so could Macromedia.

IE on any platform is not my favorite browser. Nor is Safari or Opera or Netscape or Firefox....etc! All have their problems and shortcomings. I use all of them to test my products before release.

According to the browser statistics in a recent posting to this group: IE "owns" something like 92% of the browser market (presuming, of course, that those stats are truly reflective of the user community).

I do not hate a company simply because they have captured the majority of the market.

I DO dislike Microsoft's inability to adapt quickly to industry standards that are emerging around them.

I do NOT rant at the folks who use the products that are often pre-installed on their computers. MOST Internet users fall into this category. They are victims of Microsoft's success at marketing. Do not blame the victim!

An American story comes to mind of a girl named Pollyanna - who always thought positively - perhaps naively so. You seem to imply that I am somewhat "pollyanish" in my belief that MacroMedia would do a little more proofing before they deliver a product to market. Macromedia did not do this and are correctly blamed for the problem with THEIR template.

IE and its lack of standards compliance is an extenuating factor.

I doubt you design websites only for compliance to the 'best' browsers on the market without regard for the "1,000 kilogram ape" looming over you.

Thanks for the article link - nothing new there - but it's always good to see someone trying to tell the already converted what they want to hear.

Will Jensen
Moscow, Russia


On Nov 17, 2004, at 10:11 AM, csslist wrote:

ok maybe its just the way u said this but its gotta be the dumbest thing i have ever read

[quote]I imagined MacroMedia would not turn
out a template that did not work in all browsers on all platforms.[/quote]

i mean come on!!!!

if it makes u feel better to pass some blame then blame who it is that at fault
and gee wouldnt u guess who it is? micro$oft.... imagine that

the quote should be more like this

I imagined Micro$oft would not turn out such crap that did not work right and doesnt follow the recommended validation standards but then again if they built something right then all the worlds crime would go away, everything would be green and fertile, everyone would be beautiful, there would be free super slurpee's for the everyone and there would be nothing but world peace.

and we all know all that aint about to happen

btw, a desect quick read
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3513_7-5570803-1.html?tag=cnetfd.ld

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Will Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:35:29 +0300

I am running IE 6 on Win 2K Adv Server.

This is an interesting wrinkle. I imagined MacroMedia would not turn
out a template that did not work in all browsers on all platforms.

I used a 1024x768 screen resolution and if I resize the IE6 window
horizontally the capsule story section drops down below the PageNav
section. It may not be obvious unless you play about a bit with the
size of the IE window.

I have a 17" screen and the difference is very large in the placement
of the text.

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