Points about allowing the user as much text size control as possible are 
well made and I agree, however I don't think I'd have a job as a designer if 
I relied upon the average user to change their browser's default text-size 
manually. In my several years working on the web, and as a user prior to 
that, I've never witnessed that behaviour, even amongst savvy users 
(text-zooming yes, adjusting browser default text-size, no).

hank


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 2:07 AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Font size


Hi,

Felix Miata wrote:

> It is arrogant to impose it, rather than merely wish it. What you are
> doing is saying to your visitors "I can't actually know what your
> default is, but regardless what it really is, it's too big for me, and
> I'm imposing a xx% reduction from whatever you chose as most appropriate
> for yourself, whether your default is 9px, or 90px or anything in
> between."

Perhaps it is a bit arrogant for a designer or developer to decide for
the user which font-size is most suitable, but design requires that
choices be made. Otherwise, we should simply abandon all forms of
content styling and rely entirely upon the user to assert their styling
desires via whatever means are available to them.

We consistently make choices for the user that we feel will improve the
user's experience. In many cases we specify font-face, line-height,
letter-spacing, color, background-color, emphasis, strength, paragraph
width, text effects, and heading levels. All of these choices impact
readability and they each alter the user's default settings to some extent.

For example, the page you provided earlier
(http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/defaultsize.html) is a prime example
of how the author simultaneously champions and ignores the importance of
the user's preferences. To my eyes, the page is far more readable
unstyled than when the font-color, background-color, headings, and
font-face are altered to suit the authors idea of pleasant. The
font-size seems to have the least impact on how easy or difficult the
document is to read, but is the main focus of the information.

> "The web is about control, but not the designer's, it is the user's
> control that is central to the design and philosophy of the web." John
> Allsopp at http://webstandardsgroup.org/features/john-allsopp.cfm

This particular page sets the font-size for paragraphs and list to 80%,
so I don't think this is the best supporting argument for your point. In
fact, most of the elements on this page are altered to be either larger
or smaller than my default settings. I do, however, have control, which
is the key factor of the equation. Still, the average user may or may
not know how to exercise this control, so it is evident the issue
extends beyond designers and developers and ventures into the realm of
user interface and education.

-- 
Best regards,
Michael Wilson

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