Richard, It sounds interesting. I never knew it, my bad. I thought UTF-8 format is plain text. I will give it a try when I go home.
Thank you very much. --- Richard Ishida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Boke, > > There is no reason at all that the validator > would choke on Turkish > characters, if the text is properly encoded in > utf-8. > > I ran a test, and think I know what the problem > is. If you run the validator > on your current page [1], but tell it that the > encoding is utf-8 (which it > is not - it's iso-8859-9), you get exactly the > same error message. > > This suggests to me that you didn't actually > save your file as UTF-8, you > just changed the encoding declaration in the > meta tag. You should try saving > the file as utf-8 (see how to do this for > various editors [2]), and change > the encoding declaration. Then it should work. > > RI > > > > [1] > http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fira.com.tr%2Fy%2F&charset=utf > -8&doctype=Inline&verbose=1 > > [2] > http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-setting-encoding-in-application > s > > > ============ > Richard Ishida > W3C > > contact info: > http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/ > > W3C Internationalization: > http://www.w3.org/International/ > > Publication blog: > http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/ > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Boke Yuzgen > > Sent: 22 November 2004 21:35 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [WSG] yuzgen.com review please > > > > Lang attributes: > > Fixed. > > > > UTF-8 instead of ISO: > > Here's the validator's message: > > "Sorry, I am unable to validate this document > because on > > lines 7-9, 11, 79, 84, 86-87, 89-92, 101, > 104-107, 114 it > > contained one or more bytes that I cannot > interpret as utf-8 > > (in other words, > > > > the bytes found are not valid values in the > specified > > Character Encoding). Please check both the > content of the > > file and the character encoding indication." > > > > It doesn't like the Turkish characters. I > simply won't write > > any UTF-8 codes while writing an article to > my web site. If > > it doesn't validate my web page some day some > how because of > > Turkish characters, I won't mind if my pages > render correct. > > If my pages don't render correct with the > Turkish characters > > in the code, I will use Flash. ;) > > > > Because English speaking people can simply > write for the web > > by hitting one character they know. > > Why shoulf non-English speaking people like > me bother > > character entities etc? Also, I know I can > use find&replace > > on multi files at the same time, but I won't > do that. Then I > > will have to backup two copies of each page > (eg. if I want to > > use my text elsewhere, what will I do then? > Reconvert to the > > original?). > > > > - Why? > > - Because W3C said so. > > > > Thank you for your comment. > > > > --- Boke Yuzgen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I will fix lang when I go home. I'm at work > now. > > > I use W3C's validator. I will also post the > error it reports when I > > > use UTF-8 when I go home. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > --- Richard Ishida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Interesting. Which validator are you > using? > > > > > > > > By rights, it shouldn't validate as is, > since XML requires an XML > > > > declaration (ie. <?xml version="1.0" > > > > encoding="iso-8859-9"?>) when not using > utf-8. > > > > > > > > Did you note the comment about lang > > > attributes? > > > > > > > > RI > > > > > > > > > > > > ============ > > > > Richard Ishida > > > > W3C > > > > > > > > contact info: > > > > http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/ > > > > > > > > W3C Internationalization: > > > > http://www.w3.org/International/ > > > > > > > > Publication blog: > > > > http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > Behalf > > > > Of Boke Yuzgen > > > > > Sent: 22 November 2004 12:49 > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: RE: [WSG] yuzgen.com review > please > > > > > > > > > > Idid it first, but my pages won't > validate > > > if > > > > I use UTF-8. > > > > > > > > > > --- Richard Ishida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Please change > > > > > > > > > > > > <html > > > xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"; > > > > > > xml:lang="en" lang="en"> > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > <html > > > xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"; > > > > > > xml:lang="tr" lang="tr"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you considered using UTF-8, > rather > > > > than > > > > > > charset=iso-8859-9 ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope that helps, > > > > > > RI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============ > > > > > > Richard Ishida > > > > > > W3C > > > > > > > > > > > > contact info: > > > > > > http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/ > > > > > > > > > > > > W3C Internationalization: > > > > > > http://www.w3.org/International/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Publication blog: > > > > > > http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > > > > Behalf > > > > > > Of Boke Yuzgen > > > > > > > Sent: 22 November 2004 09:12 > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > Subject: [WSG] yuzgen.com review > please > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you please review this site? > Site > > > > > > language is not English. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://yuzgen.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Boke Yuzgen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > The discussion list for > > > > http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > > > > > > > See > > > > > > > > > > http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > > > > for some hints on posting to the list & > getting help > > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! > > > http://my.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > The discussion list for > > > http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > > > > > See > > > > > > http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > > > for some hints on posting to the list & > getting help > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! > > http://my.yahoo.com > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > The discussion list for > http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > > > See > http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > > for some hints on posting to the list & > getting help > > > ****************************************************** > > > > ****************************************************** > The discussion list for > http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See > http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & > getting help > ****************************************************** > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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