Good day all, I have to concur with Collin about designing for IE first and foremost. I run a design firm in Dallas, and the dominate browser is the US is certainly IE therefore it would be less then prudent or rational to design for FF/Opera/NN/Safari etc.
I also understand and take advantage of JavaScript in conjunction with DOM where applicable. This is a powerful language and when used effectively can provide a host of functionality inline with standards-based technologies. The bottomline is that you have to pick your battles wisely, or risk becoming a hack :) Respectfully yours, Mario S. Cisneros, President WebNet Design Studios, LLC > The point I was trying to make was that my audience primarily uses IE > (as I dare say, so do most commercial web audiences). As such, I design > my sites to work first and foremost *for* IE. The bashing of head > against the proverbial brick wall comes from trying to make my > standards-compliant sites work the same in FF/Opera/NN/Safari as they do > in IE. All of my sites (save for I think 2), are done in XHTML 1.0 > Strict, and I make sure each page validates, as well as the CSS. I > first make sure the sites look and perform the way I want in both MSIE 5 > and 6. After that is successful, I then start testing in the other > browsers. For other sites (personal, concept, etc.), I worry about IE > last, because most of my friends and colleagues use more standards > compliant browsers. While I do know ECMA-262 (Javascript), I hate using > it. I can develop much quicker just using a pure markup+css approach, > and have no need for scripting. I hope that makes my original post > clearer. In no way did I think Mordechai was suggesting an ignoring an > IE, but was asking why style to IE specifically, and I was just giving > the rationale for doing so. > Cheers :) > > Collin Davis > Web Architect > Stromberg Architectural Products > p 903.454.0904 > f 903.454.3642 > e [EMAIL PROTECTED] > web www.strombergarchitectural.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Vicki Berry > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 11:15 AM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: Re: [WSG] Why style to IE? > >>>I don't believe Mordechai was suggesting anyone ignore IE -- rather >>> that, instead of bashing our heads against the proverbial brick wall >>> trying to make our standards-compliant sites work in IE, it may be a >>> workable option to use an alternative to said head bashing and css >>> hacks. His suggestion was to use Javascript. > > > > ****************************************************** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ****************************************************** ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************