Errrrr, wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhat??????????????????????????????????????
If you use the controls provided by MS (validation
controls etc), then yes, the code is junk. But who in their right mind uses
those anyway? Who has ever used those? That aside, how else does .NET mangle
code? I am sorry but that was not a good reply. I have built sites in XHTML
STRICT/CSS that uses .NET code behind and VALIDATES 100%. If you are in the
habit of dragging and dropping your websites into existence then no, it won’t
validate, but then I suspect it won’t validate in any language.
At the end of the day it is down to the
developer, their lack of knowledge and sloppy coding which makes a language
produce sloppy code.
Explain to me how that is wrong.
W
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Behalf Of csslist
Sent: 23 July 2005 18:27
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] Visual
Studio/.net general question
what?????????
thats a big load of BS!!!!!
what does using coldfusion have to do with mangling your code?
if you do a simple google search you will find out the what mangles code and
makes it a lot more work to unmangle is .net and vs, which is what u'd expect
when you let m$ write any of your code for you (look at frontpage code and
decide if you want m$ to write your code).
coldfusion actually makes it much easier to control your layout code because of
its tag based syntax and ease of use porting it into your pages.
Sorry wayne but
that wasnt a good answer ;)
most of the server sides are good with compliance except .net, which you
obviously can get to work but it requires much more time to
"unmangle" what ms gives you which shouldnt be a suprise to anyone!!!
"The code I have seen being churned out looks
like it has gone through a mangler with huge chunks of white space etc. "
then you are comparing what you yourseld do to someone using cfm that doesnt
know how to do it correctly, those chucks of whitespace are obviously when cfm
code is and a simple solution it to wrap code thats in the presentaion view
with <cfsilent>cfm code</cfsilent> and that will take away the
whitespace.
"ASP.NET does not produce code that is capable of passing
successful validation in any of the SRTICT modes (see Eric Meyer's Picking a Rendering Mode and W3C's List of valid DTDs you
can use in your document for more information on DOCTYPEs). To enforce
XHTML compliant code it takes some effort to implement automatic code cleaning
(all right, fudging)."
From: "wayne"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005
12:54 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] Visual
Studio/.net general question
I think you will find that coldfusion makes life harder in respect to
web standards compliance. The code I have seen being churned out looks
like it has gone through a mangler with huge chunks of white space etc.
In general though, I agree with James, the server side language should
not really hinder this, I am developing a couple of sites using ASP.NET
and the layout is pure CSS using XHTML strict. The IDE might have more
effect on this as some of them play around with your code, but that is
easily averted by not using design view and taking the time to configure
them properly.
W
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 23 July 2005 11:39
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Visual Studio/.net general question
Recently i worked on a project that involved visual studio and the whole
asp.net thing. I was reading on the maxdesign site that they only use
asp by
special request as it is not a "rapid development solution".
I guess my question is this-is cold fusion the proper way to build
dynamimc
sites with regards to web standards?
Forgive me if this is to ot.
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