Hi Emma,
I'd like to tackle your question. Yes, you can consider a table a
container. However, in HTML a table contains tabular data, not other
tables, not layout. HTML was designed by scientists, for whom tables
of data were of utmost importance. It was a perversion of the
language to use them for layout. Unfortunately, IMHO, designers were
not part of the team developing HTML, so that presentation was given
low priority. Allowing the mess that's call tag soup to develop.
If the Web were only a visual medium, this wouldn't be too bad. But,
one of the wonderful things about the Web is that it's a great
equalizer--allowing disabled, abled, low bandwidth, high bandwith,
etc. users to use it and gain information, develop networks, buy,
sell, learn, teach, etc.
So, in order to help the Web grow more and more useful, separate your
content and presentation. That way, everyone can access your pages.
That means, use tables as intended, for tabular data. Now, in my
book, tabular data includes text, when presented in tabular form
(with columns and rows, column heads and row heads).
And use css to position, colour, define your text, images, etc.
That's css-driven. As opposed to using tables for positioning and css
for basic font styling. CSS can do everything I just mentioned
(within browser limitations).
Best regards,
Marilyn Langfeld
Langfeldesigns
http://www.langfeldesigns.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
+1.301.598.3300 business phone
+1.301.598.0532 fax
+1.202.390.8847 mobile
On Dec 12, 2005, at 9:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry, but I have to disagree.
Tables as well as divs, spans etc. are containers. They are both html
elements. I don't think that any standard has suppressed the table
element from html and in my dictionary, hacking is modifying a program
in an unauthorized manner. Are tables unauthorized?
I never said that tables are meant for design. But even by w3.org
standards they are used for displaying tabular data .
What is in your oppinion the difference between a css driven and a css
complemented page? Isn't in both cases the coding enhanced by the
styling?
Please do not qualify others' statements as "silly". Let's keep this
discussion in a friendly manner.
******************************************************
The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/
See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
for some hints on posting to the list & getting help
******************************************************
