On 04/03/2007, at 3:44 PM, Michael Kear wrote:

I resent the fact that this professional design house has accepted cash-type money from my client to design the public side of the web site and produced such a shoddy job. Not only that, I have to work inside it, to make all my
work function in this dogs-breakfast of a mess.

I am continually amazed at the poor level of knowledge of standards (and more importantly IMHO, semantics) in Australian web houses - especially from corporate shops. Something I realized while working at a medium-sized dev house was that a lot of the time simple tasks like HTML/CSS work are given to students or people without a lot of experience in the field. I suppose it simple and cost effective to have Joe "Web Wizzard" Bloggs to chop up a site in Dreamweaver and pass it off as finished work, and stakeholders often won't recognize (or care) if the layout was written like you described so long as it works in IE6. In fact, i've actually worked on apps that used Java println statements to output large parts of the app into tables, when most of the existing code is handled completely differently.

It's is a pity when you have to fix these kinds of things :)

My pet peeve is starting work on an application thats been in development for years with the hands of oh, maybe 20 different programmers that all use different coding styles, strange unstandard methods of doing things (for example, using Javascript to submit forms when a normal submit would work fine.).

Oh, and Hi to everyone on the list, I've been reading it for a few weeks now and thought I might join the conversation, if thats okay with you guys :)

Have a good weekend,

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Jake Tracey
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