> Stuart Foulstone > Sorry, I thought we were discussing labels for form input > boxes (not just > one-box input search forms).
I was specifically talking about the type of form Bojana mentions in the thread starter. > However, generally speaking, making assumptions about > accessibility based > on the visual positioning of elements "in a logical common > place used by > most other sites" is not a good idea. I'm not making assumptions. I'm saying that, for sighted users, having a text input box with no visible label and a button that says "Search" immediately next to it is labelling enough. > Better to design to Web standards rather the standard of > other Websites. You seem to be getting a tad confused here. Am I talking about abandoning web standards? No. Is it worth looking at other websites for common design patterns that users are already familiar with? Yes. These aren't mutually exclusive. I'm saying that having a label element that is moved off-left via CSS - keeping it in the markup, but not visible - is an acceptable solution in this case, and doing so would not pose accessibility problems to other user groups (e.g. sighted users with motor impairments, provided the text input offers a large enough clickable area in itself). P ________________________________ Patrick H. Lauke Web Editor External Relations Division University of Salford Room 113, Faraday House Salford, Greater Manchester M5 4WT UK T +44 (0) 161 295 4779 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.salford.ac.uk A GREATER MANCHESTER UNIVERSITY ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******************************************************************
